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yomamak
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Member since Feb 2008
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State of program before and after Les
Simple question, did Miles leave the program in better shape than he inherited it? Also is LSU a better job now then we he took it over?


Jester
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Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
24819 posts

re: State of program before and after Les
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Simple question, did Miles leave the program in better shape than he inherited it?


Yes

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Also is LSU a better job now then we he took it over?


Yes


OneMoreTime
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Member since Dec 2008
57684 posts

re: State of program before and after Les
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Simple question, did Miles leave the program in better shape than he inherited it? Also is LSU a better job now then we he took it over?
Yes


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AlxTgr
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Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
53650 posts

re: State of program before and after Les
LSU is really lucky. While the results were not what anyone wanted lately, the firing of coach generally comes after severe damage has been done. If this recruiting class stays even somewhat together, the program can rock along as if nothing happened.


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koLSU86
LSU Fan
Member since Aug 2012
1565 posts

re: State of program before and after Les
There's plenty of talent on the roster or sure. He just didn't know what to do with it.


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bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
13701 posts

re: State of program before and after Les
No rational fan would deny that Les was a fantastic recruiter, because he was.

Most fans had a problem with these players not living up to their potential under him. Hence, the most players in the NFL, and no bling to show for it.


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Topwater Trout
LSU Fan
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
54726 posts

re: State of program before and after Les
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did Miles leave the program in better shape than he inherited it?


No...we were 1 year removed from a national title when miles took over

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Also is LSU a better job now then we he took it over?


Same


TigerNutwhack
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
3501 posts

re: State of program before and after Les
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Simple question, did Miles leave the program in better shape than he inherited it?


Probably close to the same. Tons of talent, great facilities that are continuing to improve. Reputation is definitely in better shape.

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Also is LSU a better job now then we he took it over?


Absolutely. LSU is being talked about as one of the best jobs in America. That was not how we were talked about when Saban jumped ship.


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SBC
LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2005
4998 posts

re: State of program before and after Les
Yes, yes, yes.

He sustained this program and took it up several notches in his 12 years. No doubt.


atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
6102 posts

re: State of program before and after Les
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He sustained this program and took it up several notches in his 12 years. No doubt.



He took over a program that had won a national championship two years prior and went 6-2 in conference the year before.

He leaves a program that won a NC 9 years ago and played for another NC 5 years ago (and got humiliated).

But in the 4+ years after that, we've gone 15-11 against the SEC West, all with top 5 recruiting classes. Last 3+ years: 10-10.
This post was edited on 9/30 at 2:15 pm


UGATiger26
Georgia Fan
Athens, GA
Member since Dec 2009
5320 posts

re: State of program before and after Les
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did Miles leave the program in better shape than he inherited it? Also is LSU a better job now then we he took it over?


I'd say yes.

When Saban left, LSU was still nationally perceived as probably an above-average gig, but not a top tier one. Saban took a struggling program and resuscitated it, but he hadn't established the kind of respect that, say, Pete Carroll established for USC by the time he left LA.

Miles did a good job of keeping LSU at a high level of success, especially in '05 through '07, which I think is what made the nation really perceive LSU as a perennial power. It's hard to ignore a team that wins 2 nattys in 5 years.

Obviously there were a few "down" years in '08-'10 and then after 1/9/2012, but the 2011 season was special enough to maintain that perception even though the seasons immediately before and after weren't that great.

This post was edited on 9/30 at 11:52 am


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Lakeboy7
LSU Fan
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
12144 posts

re: State of program before and after Les
Absolutely not. The talent level is ok but overall the program is in disarray. Apathy with the team and fans.

Yes


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dukke v
LSU Fan
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
156503 posts

re: State of program before and after Les
Well said.... I like miles but facts are facts....


south bama tiger
LSU Fan
Memphis, TN
Member since May 2008
6471 posts

re: State of program before and after Les
In 2005, no one in America (outside of LA) considered LSU a top 5 job in the country, even with its pretty solid history and prestige.

People now regard it as a premier program, with some commentators and pundits now calling it the best job.

The program is undeniably better because of Les's tenure, all political turmoil aside.


dukke v
LSU Fan
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
156503 posts

re: State of program before and after Les
Saban brought LSU to heights it hadn't seen in 40 plus years. The program was a disaster when Saban got here. He built a top 5 program from out of the gutters. Now I give Miles credit for keeping it at the high level that it had become, up until 1/9. After that we have been mediocre compared to where we were.


south bama tiger
LSU Fan
Memphis, TN
Member since May 2008
6471 posts

re: State of program before and after Les
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Saban brought LSU to heights it hadn't seen in 40 plus years


Yes, he did a lot for the program to put it mildly. But in terms of program prestige and how coaches, the media, and the public view the head coach job here, 2016 LSU > 2005 LSU.

It's therefore logical to conclude that the state of the program is better now than before Les took over.


NLabosstiger
LSU Fan
Member since Mar 2008
928 posts

re: State of program before and after Les
Sorry fat fingers it. Supposed to be an upvote


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AlxTgr
LSU Fan
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
53650 posts

re: State of program before and after Les
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The program was a disaster when Saban got here.


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He built a top 5 program from out of the gutters.


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Lonnie4LSU
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
7191 posts

re: State of program before and after Les
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No


How many 10 win seasons did LSU have from 2000 to 2004 and many since 05? How many Top 10 ranking did LSU have from 2000 to 2004 and how many since? What was the LSU winning % from 2000 to 2004 and what has it been since 05? How many SEC teams won titles from 2000 to 2004 and how many have won titles since 05? From 2000 to 2004 LSU ranked 6th national for wins and 2nd in the SEC for wins. From 2005 LSU has ranked 3rd national for wins and 1st in the SEC.




atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
6102 posts

re: State of program before and after Les
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Well said.... I like miles but facts are facts....


agreed.

And don't you just love it when people downvote a post filled only with facts.

smh


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