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re: State of program before and after Les

Posted on 9/30/16 at 1:56 pm to
Posted by Laman1978
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 1:56 pm to
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Simple question, did Miles leave the program in better shape than he inherited it?
Around the same.
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Also is LSU a better job now then we he took it over?
Yes, it's a better job. Back to back head coaches won national championships at LSU. Coaches take note of that and realize the school has the necessary support to win championships.
Posted by south bama tiger
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 1:56 pm to
Two things related to the "program" from the fans' experience that I think took away some of the gameday magic: 1)the collapse of tailgating and parking around campus. The reconfiguration and additional regulations really dampened the spirit.
2)the lack of good home and home games with solid programs. We sacrifice a great home game every year to go play in Houston, Atlanta, or Dallas. The game in Green Bay was a fantastic idea however except for the outcome.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 1:57 pm to
The parking is unbelievable. I can't believe the regulars have not started some kind of revolt.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 1:58 pm to
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At THIs moment the


And at the "moment" Miles took over the program was ranked #16, had 9 wins, and was out of the SECW race after the 1st week of Oct.

We have to look at the whole and not cherry pick, but each to our own.

Anyone not willing to note the difference between the strength of SEC of 2000-2004 and from 05 till now, cant make a honest assessment. imo

Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 2:00 pm to
LSU can get almost anyone they want . If the money is right.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 2:00 pm to
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LSU can get almost anyone they want . If the money is right.


We shall see
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81599 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 2:02 pm to
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LSU can get almost anyone they want .
Because of how well the state of the program is.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 2:04 pm to
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We sacrifice a great home game every year to go play in Houston, Atlanta, or Dallas. The game in Green Bay was a fantastic idea however except for the outcome.


Green Bay is a shite hole. Would have MUCH preferred playing that one in Madison.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Member since Jul 2009
47557 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 2:08 pm to
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2004 LSU Tigers football
Capital One Bowl, L 25–30 vs. Iowa
Ranking Coaches No. 16 AP No. 16
2004 record 9–3 (6–2 SEC)
Head coach Nick Saban (5th year)


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2015 LSU Tigers football
Texas Bowl champion Texas Bowl, W 56–27 vs. Texas Tech Ranking Coaches No. 17 AP No. 16
2015 record 9–3 (5–3 SEC)
Head coach Les Miles (11th year)



Looks like a push at best.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 2:14 pm to
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But in the 4+ years after that, we've gone 15-11 against the SEC West, all with top 5 recruiting classes.


I don't know where you found rankings that show LSU with top 5 classes each and every year. What I looked up for the past 5 years shows LSU in the top 5 twice, between 6-10 twice and his lowest class ranked #18.

Going back through all of Miles classes, his best was #2 and his worst was #22, which was his first year at LSU. That actually would have been part of Sabans last recruiting effort for LSU. Ole Nick really hit it out of the park that year, didn't he.

By the way, these rankings were the rivals sites rankings, I'm sure the others are a little different.
Posted by Stellyonidas
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Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 2:15 pm to
Had the record for most consecutive non-conference regular season wins too.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 2:18 pm to
You just don't get it man.ok. List me the top 5 jobs in the country right now.....
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81599 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 2:21 pm to
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You just don't get it man.ok.
I don't get what?

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List me the top 5 jobs in the country right now.....
Why?
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 2:21 pm to
Why Madison??? You really think that would have increased our chance of winning????? Or are you just being selfish and thinking about yourself and the fun you didn't have.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 2:22 pm to
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The program was a disaster when saban got here. He built a top 5 program from out of the gutters.


dukke, it doesn't matter how many times you repeat yourself with this saban built LSU into a top 5 program, it isn't true. The year to year rankings prove that it isn't a fact. He left the program in better shape then when he arrived. That's all he did. End of story.
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 2:22 pm to
Why???? Well I guess you can't. Or you are scared that I am spot on. Either way..
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 2:23 pm to
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es, he did a lot for the program to put it mildly. But in terms of program prestige and how coaches, the media, and the public view the head coach job here, 2016 LSU > 2005 LSU.


LSU was a program on the rise when Saban left. The program is in a state of decline at present.

Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 2:25 pm to
Ok. But has miles left the program in as good a shape as when he got here. No.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81599 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 2:25 pm to
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Why????
Yes why. It's got nothing to do with anything.

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Well I guess you can't
It would be my opinion. I can give it, but it would be as worthless as anyone else's.
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Or you are scared that I am spot on. Either way..

About what? Are you playing village idiot for kicks?
Posted by dukke v
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202576 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 2:26 pm to
Bingo.........
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