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re: State of Lsu football program in my eyes

Posted on 12/12/09 at 2:43 pm to
Posted by Sammich
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 12/12/09 at 2:43 pm to
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But for some reason some people would rather see lsu fail for no other reason then to justify their negative outlook on life.


I disagree on the reason for it. Most everything here goes back to their deluded belief that Saban was more than he actually was. He popped thier National Championship Cherry. Many will be "Appreciating" him, praising his 2 double digit win seasons until the day they die.


Most of the negativity rally has nothing to do with Miles, per se. He just happened to be the guy that took the LSU job after Mr. Cherry Popper. This will continue with whoever the next coach is & likely the coach after that.

These people like to talk about discipline when it comes to Miles, but in 2004 when Xavier Carter brought a kickoff out & knelt on the 1 yard line, it was considered "Funny".
This post was edited on 12/12/09 at 3:14 pm
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 12/12/09 at 3:20 pm to
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for some reason some people would rather see lsu fail for no other reason then to justify their negative outlook on life
complaining, even about something or someone you love, is human nature. it will never end.

the main problem with the negatigers is their lack of perspective. they are not capable of looking at the big picture and understanding that the sec is the toughest conference in america. no one, not even meyer and saban, can stay on top forever. these are just normal cycles of college football.
Posted by airbornetiger
SATX
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 12/12/09 at 3:23 pm to
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Not being blissfully content with an 8-8 SEC record and 108th ranked offense equals wanting LSU to fail.


First off, you should seperate your thoughts to their respective years.

The 8-8 record is over a 2-year period. 4 of the 8 losses came against #1 or #2 in the nation, which I will suggest we played 3 of 4 to the wire. . A 5th loss was the Ole miss melt-down. But a loss is a loss. The record in '07 was 3-5....and the record in '08 was 5-3.

The 108th ranked O is a concern, but I think it has much to do with QB experience, QB confidence, and QB intelligence. JJ never looked comfortable this season. I am not saying JJ isn't smart, I think this O is overly complicated and forces too much "thinking" instead of letting players play.

With a year of experience and hopefully an upgrade on the O-line to but an extra second or two of protection, I think things will be OK in 2010.
Posted by souldog
Johnstown, PA
Member since Jul 2007
1014 posts
Posted on 12/12/09 at 3:27 pm to
What does "OK" mean? Win the west. Go 11-1? Yes we were "OK" this year? I agree. OK is not good enough with one of the top paid coaches (and coaching staffs in the nation), top recruiting classes, smothering home field advantages, and state of the art facilities!
Posted by lsufan52
new iberia la
Member since Oct 2009
1970 posts
Posted on 12/12/09 at 3:28 pm to
own not on
Posted by lsufan52
new iberia la
Member since Oct 2009
1970 posts
Posted on 12/12/09 at 3:30 pm to
get rid of crowton
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 12/12/09 at 3:31 pm to
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You don't agree that Florida and Bama have consistently played more physical football than us the last two years?
No not really. The last two Bama games LSU has held their own on the physical side. I view each season as a new team, new season so I think LSU can win/compete with all SEC teams over that period. Things go in cycles, Bama/UF will have issues comeing up much like LSU has had the last two seasons

Agreed. Other than the Florida and OleMrs games of '08, the Tigers have not been less physical and in fact have been more physical than most during this season. It's not more aggression they need but a little more talent in the interiors of both lines and I believe that is coming. LSU will be a better team than UF next season IMHO and I believe will be on par in most areas with 'Bama once again. The Tide's game in Baton Rouge next November will be the game of the year.
Posted by MFV
Member since Oct 2008
907 posts
Posted on 12/12/09 at 3:41 pm to
I am reserving my judgement on the state of our program until next season is over. There will be no excuses next year (although there will be some that continue to blame perrilloux or crowton if he stays). If Miles can't win the west next year it will be obvious that he just can't get the job done.
Posted by Soft_Parade
Member since Sep 2005
2502 posts
Posted on 12/12/09 at 3:59 pm to
Have you watched Miles on the sideline and come away impressed?

BTW, I fall into the category of someone who is very pleased with their personal and professional life. The continued attempts to paint anyone who dare suggest that LSU would be a better team under someone other than Miles as irrational and unhappy is pretty unoriginal and stale.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 12/12/09 at 4:15 pm to
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how can we look so confused and undisciplined so often over a two year period?
the defensive problem was rectified. offense, tbd. no need for fans to have a "problem". these are normal things in football.

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LSU will NOT get back to the top of the SEC and the nation until there is a re-dedication to being prepared, playing every play with intensity, and executing.
how do you know that the team isn't dedicated to that? all teams have problems and go through these periods. yet, lsu remains firmly in the top 3rd of the sec under miles' watch
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 12/12/09 at 4:19 pm to
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miles needs to do something
he is genius. lsu was definitively better than last season. relax

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we have lost what ever we had in 07
geez. no one stays on top in the sec.

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bama and florida now own the sec
but they won't forever. THAT IS A FACT
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 12/12/09 at 4:21 pm to
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Not being blissfully content with an 8-8 SEC record and 108th ranked offense equals wanting LSU to fail.
why do rantards insist on cherry picking the record from the last two seasons to "prove" miles can't cut it and ignore the progress made from last season to this season?
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 12/12/09 at 4:23 pm to
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We will continue to drop with Les Miles running the program
last season: 3-5. this season: 5-3. how is that "continuing to drop"?
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 12/12/09 at 4:24 pm to
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I knew it had to be based on something other than actual analysis of our program
the actual analysis is that miles had a defensive problem and demonstrably fixed it and the numbers prove it. offense, tbd.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 12/12/09 at 4:24 pm to
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I do say from the way things look, we aren't as strong as a program than FLA and AL.
that's because you suffer from myopia
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 12/12/09 at 4:26 pm to
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How do you rationalize the two consecutive losses to Ole Miss?
rantards cherry picking? NO WAY
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 12/12/09 at 4:27 pm to
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OK is not good enough with one of the top paid coaches (and coaching staffs in the nation), top recruiting classes, smothering home field advantages, and state of the art facilities
fortunately, the people who run the program take a broader view of things than rantard opinions like this one
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 12/12/09 at 4:29 pm to
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get rid of crowton
how do you know the offense won't improve next season with crowton?
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53417 posts
Posted on 12/12/09 at 4:30 pm to
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 12/12/09 at 4:30 pm to
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There will be no excuses next year
typical ridiculous comment from the rant. every season is different and they all have unique challenges.

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If Miles can't win the west next year it will be obvious that he just can't get the job done.
as stated by someone else, this statement is proof that negatigers are damaged beyond repair
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