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re: Spencer Ware not in the same class as Trent Richardson
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:12 pm to LSUAlum2001
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:12 pm to LSUAlum2001
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Both Ridley and Ingram play in spread style NFL teams with elite QBs and Ridley looks like a much better RB by far in their 1st year.
based on what? 25 carries for 161 1 TD against 62 for 216 and 2 TDs. yes, ridley's ypc are higher, but ingram has been given the ball on goal line and short yardage situations. green-ellis gets those carries for the patriots still.
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:12 pm to bee Rye
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anyone without purple and gold glasses would
Says the Gump. Richardson is more proven. Ware runs stronger. Richardson runs faster.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:13 pm to Jester
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Says the Gump. Richardson is more proven. Ware runs stronger. Richardson runs faster.
TR is just better. It really isn't debatable either
This post was edited on 10/10/11 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:15 pm to Rohan2Reed
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if only cliches won football games
I was about to rebuff you, but then realized that there were a lot of cliches in there.....
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:16 pm to BoudreauxinGA
BULLETIN BOARD MATERIAL NUMBER ONE.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:16 pm to lsufball19
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TR is just better. It really isn't debatable either
I think he has proven himself more and does indeed have better breakaway burst, but to imply that speed /shiftiness defines how good a back is ignores the entire history of football. They are different backs in different offensive systems.
Sure, Trent Richardson is better, but the hyperbole of the statement is what most are taking issue with.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:17 pm to Jester
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They are different backs in different offensive systems.
they really arent different nor are they in much different offensive systems.
both are big powerful backs. Richardson does just about all Ware does just slightly better.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:19 pm to Rohan2Reed
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sorry, but if you go look at the numbers.. he's kind of right.
If I had to start a team from scratch I'd take TR over Ware...but not by much. In this case, the numbers lie. TR gets to play late into games when the other defense is softened up. He runs through big holes and gets big yardage. Ware is generally on the bench watching Ford or Blue get the easy carries after ware has softened them up. I really like TR's speed but when there's no hole he goes down just like every other back. Slightly better but same class as Ware.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:19 pm to Lester Earl
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they really arent different nor are they in much different offensive systems.
both are big powerful backs. Richardson does just about all Ware does just slightly better.
Okay, Lester. You're right.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:20 pm to Jester
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I think he has proven himself more and does indeed have better breakaway burst, but to imply that speed /shiftiness defines how good a back is ignores the entire history of football. They are different backs in different offensive systems.
Sure, Trent Richardson is better, but the hyperbole of the statement is what most are taking issue with.
yes true, but TR does everything Ware does and in addition is faster and shiftier. He's one of the strongest backs in the country as well. Like someone else said, he probably is the best back in cfb since a peterson. again it's not a slight against ware, richardson is just that good.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:21 pm to Jester
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Okay, Lester. You're right.
I am aware of this, thank you.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:23 pm to The312
Who gives a shite, either way?
Both are obviously good. I'm fine with TR being deemed "better" than SW if we win the game.
Both are obviously good. I'm fine with TR being deemed "better" than SW if we win the game.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:24 pm to lsufball19
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yes true, but TR does everything Ware does and in addition is faster and shiftier. He's one of the strongest backs in the country as well. Like someone else said, he probably is the best back in cfb since a peterson. again it's not a slight against ware, richardson is just that good.
We can go back and forth all day, but I truly believe that Ware is a stronger back than TR in the way that he runs. Like you say, not a slight against Richardson.
However, you keep on with the hyperbole. Sure, he's probably the best back in the nation. Are you really trying to tell me that Marcus Lattimore doesn't even belong on the same field with him?
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:28 pm to Jester
There's a few people in here that seem to be under the impression that TR is a "shifty, speed back that goes down easily". I'm not going to take those of you saying this seriously.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:32 pm to Teague
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There's a few people in here that seem to be under the impression that TR is a "shifty, speed back that goes down easily". I'm not going to take those of you saying this seriously.
I'm not even beginning to say that. However, he's also not the second coming of Adrian Peterson.
Ware is stronger runner =/= Richardson is a scat back
Just like saying that Richardson is faster doesn't mean that Ware is a glorified fullback.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:35 pm to Jester
I just get the impression that you and maybe a couple of others haven't seen TR play much. He is the epitome of a power runner. That is what he's known for. He drags defenses down the field. He can squat a church bus. He just happens to also posses breakaway speed.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:37 pm to Jester
I don't see what the problem is.
Trent Richardson is in a different class. He's a freak. We would've given anything to get him out of HS. He's an Adrian Peterson like, blend of size, strength, speed and vision.
He'll likely be one of the better backs in the NFL when he goes.
I don't see why people want to quibble over dumb things. Ware is a very talented back who will play on Sundays. But he doesn't have the top gear that richardson does. And believe it or not, he's not as strong. if you look at their power lifting numbers richardson's are far and a way stronger.
Does that mean Alabama is gonna beat LSU? frick no.
But Richardson is a better back overall.
Trent Richardson is in a different class. He's a freak. We would've given anything to get him out of HS. He's an Adrian Peterson like, blend of size, strength, speed and vision.
He'll likely be one of the better backs in the NFL when he goes.
I don't see why people want to quibble over dumb things. Ware is a very talented back who will play on Sundays. But he doesn't have the top gear that richardson does. And believe it or not, he's not as strong. if you look at their power lifting numbers richardson's are far and a way stronger.
Does that mean Alabama is gonna beat LSU? frick no.
But Richardson is a better back overall.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:37 pm to Jester
This is a retarded argument, you don't have identical OL's therefore, you have no ideas how each other would do behind the others OL.
But, if you do want to compare RB's, watch the difference in their contributions in NOV.
But, if you do want to compare RB's, watch the difference in their contributions in NOV.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:37 pm to Teague
I'd ask Patrick Peterson. He didn't seem all that impressed with Richardson last year. Of course he didn't see him anymore after he stuffed him on the goalline.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:39 pm to matt314
Peterson was able to hit Richardson as he ran sort of sideways.
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