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re: So...... Alabama w/o a QB is still #1?
Posted on 8/6/16 at 1:35 pm to lsu2006
Posted on 8/6/16 at 1:35 pm to lsu2006
What is mystifying is why I bother to try to have serious, adult level conversations about LSU foootball with other adults, when the only people that seem to respond to any serious discussions are 13 yrd old trolls like yourself.
People like yourself need to stop turning every thread into a retarded troll fest.
People like yourself need to stop turning every thread into a retarded troll fest.
This post was edited on 8/6/16 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 8/6/16 at 1:38 pm to CajunPowah
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What is mystifying is why I bother to try to have serious, adult level conversations about LSU foootball with other adults, when the only people that seem to respond to any serious discussions are 13 yrd old trolls like yourself.
it's da rant doe
Posted on 8/6/16 at 1:44 pm to 777Tiger
Seriously, in the rant, or anywhere else for that matter, is it too much to ask to actually expect people with some knowledge of the game of football above the age of 12 to respond??
This post was edited on 8/6/16 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 8/6/16 at 1:46 pm to CajunPowah
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I came here to discuss LSU football
Then why do you keep bringing up Saban's time in the NFL? That is completely irrelevant with respect to his accomplishments as a college coach. I love how his incredible recruiting ability is somehow a knock on him to you.
Posted on 8/6/16 at 1:47 pm to CajunPowah
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is it too much to ask to actually expect people with some knowledge of the game of football above the age of 12 to respond??
on here, yes, yes it is
this place is like the airport to me, posters that, on other boards, seem to have a sense of humor, wit, and seem otherwise normal, just lose their shite when they come here, there's no rational thinking, perception of humor, sarcasm, or common sense
Posted on 8/6/16 at 1:51 pm to lsu2006
I never said his recruiting ability was a knock against him, but recruiting isnt an indication of the football knowledge of a head coach. A good recruiter is just that, a good recruiter, one has very little if anything to do with the other.
Tell me something, are you really trying to tell me that Nick Saban is more knowledgable about the game of football than somebody like Bill Walsh was? That is what this discussion is about. I could care less how good of a recruiter Saban is, he has already proven he can do that, but that is definitely not the true measure of how good a head football coach is.
If Nick Saban was coaching a team with average talent he would get average to less than average results. A great coach can beat teams with far superior talent than they have, because their understanding of the game is at a level well beyond the average football coach.
Tell me something, are you really trying to tell me that Nick Saban is more knowledgable about the game of football than somebody like Bill Walsh was? That is what this discussion is about. I could care less how good of a recruiter Saban is, he has already proven he can do that, but that is definitely not the true measure of how good a head football coach is.
If Nick Saban was coaching a team with average talent he would get average to less than average results. A great coach can beat teams with far superior talent than they have, because their understanding of the game is at a level well beyond the average football coach.
This post was edited on 8/6/16 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 8/6/16 at 1:56 pm to 777Tiger
What exactly is it about this place that reduces the intelligence of the average poster to a slobbering inbred neanderthal with the IQ of a gnat?
Isn't this a message board like any other message board, that have been around since the dawn of the internet? I just dont get why this place would be any different than the other gazillions of message boards out there, it makes no sense.
Isn't this a message board like any other message board, that have been around since the dawn of the internet? I just dont get why this place would be any different than the other gazillions of message boards out there, it makes no sense.
This post was edited on 8/6/16 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 8/6/16 at 2:00 pm to CajunPowah
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Tell me something, are you really trying to tell me that Nick Saban is more knowledgable about the game of football than somebody like Bill Walsh was? That is what this discussion is about.
No, the discussion is about how good of a college coach Nick Saban is. You are the only person who has somehow managed to confuse "how good of a coach" with "how knowledgable about the game of football. Being knowledgeable about football is part of being a good college coach. There are A LOT of other parts, and Saban is excellent at most of them.
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I could care less how good of a recruiter Saban is, he has already proven he can do that, but that is definitely not the true measure of how good a head football coach is.
If you don't care about recruiting, you aren't interested in discussing college coaching ability. Sorry, but it's part of the equation. Saying that Saban wouldn't be that good without great players . . . so what? He does have great players. Because he's a great recruiter. Which helps make him a great college coach.
Posted on 8/6/16 at 2:05 pm to CajunPowah
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but recruiting isnt an indication of the football knowledge of a head coach.
Of course not, but it's part of what makes a great college coach.
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Tell me something, are you really trying to tell me that Nick Saban is more knowledgable about the game of football than somebody like Bill Walsh was?
No. How in god's name did you reach the conclusion that I think Saban is more knowledgeable of the game than one of the most brilliant and revolutionary football minds in the history of the sport? For the record, Saban is a great defensive mind. A guy named Bill Belichik, among many others, would agree with me.
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That is what this discussion is about.
No it isn't. Being a great recruiter is part of being a great college coach. Saban is a great defensive coach, recruiter and program manager. Bama is an absolute juggernaut. I'm sorry your small dick syndrome makes that impossible for you to see. He's won 5 national titles in 13 years for god's sake.
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If Nick Saban was coaching a team with average talent he would get average to less than average results.
Too bad we'll never know because he's the best recruiter there is.
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A great coach can beat teams with far superior talent than they have, because their understanding of the game is at a level well beyond the average football coach.
Really groundbreaking stuff here. Thanks.
This post was edited on 8/6/16 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 8/6/16 at 2:07 pm to kylesch87
A great coach can take a team of average players and make them a great team.
Any coach can take a team full of more 5 star recruits than anyone else and make them a great team. Unless the majority of those 5 star recruits are all about themselves rather than the team, that team is going to be very good. All the coach has to do with a team of 5 stars that bring it everyday is get out of their way to one degree or another basically.
Any coach can take a team full of more 5 star recruits than anyone else and make them a great team. Unless the majority of those 5 star recruits are all about themselves rather than the team, that team is going to be very good. All the coach has to do with a team of 5 stars that bring it everyday is get out of their way to one degree or another basically.
Posted on 8/6/16 at 2:11 pm to lsu2006
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I'm sorry your small dick syndrome makes that impossible for you to see. He's won 5 national titles in 13 years for god's sake
Thanks for taking the discussion back to the 3rd grade again, that is the same thing everyone here does when their arguments have many holes in them that can be disputed.
Like I said, trolls man, trolls...
This post was edited on 8/6/16 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 8/6/16 at 2:12 pm to CajunPowah
Ah yes, ignore everything else substantive I post in lieu of whining about potty words. Real smart cat you are.
Posted on 8/6/16 at 2:15 pm to lsu2006
Apparently, at least as smart as you because your arguments dont hold up any better against mine than mine do against yours.
This discussion appears to be a stalemate, and neither one of us are going to agree with the other. I've stated facts, and you have stated some facts, arguments can be made on both sides of this issue.
Now that I have replied like an adult, ill respond in kind to your bitch arse comment. All you need to do is exit the thread and move onto another dude, real freaking simple, so just do that.
This discussion appears to be a stalemate, and neither one of us are going to agree with the other. I've stated facts, and you have stated some facts, arguments can be made on both sides of this issue.
Now that I have replied like an adult, ill respond in kind to your bitch arse comment. All you need to do is exit the thread and move onto another dude, real freaking simple, so just do that.
This post was edited on 8/6/16 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 8/6/16 at 2:16 pm to CajunPowah
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Apparently, at least as smart as you because your arguments dont hold up any better against mine than mine do against yours.
Posted on 8/6/16 at 2:18 pm to DrD
Saban will discover Time Travel & a cure for Cancer
Posted on 8/6/16 at 2:20 pm to lsu2006
ooooh, cool little fruity emoticons, now go back to your boyfriends bed, boy.
Posted on 8/6/16 at 2:21 pm to CajunPowah
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ooooh, cool little fruity emoticons, now go back to your boyfriends bed, boy.
Oh, I get it. Because you think I'm gay. LoL!
Posted on 8/6/16 at 2:23 pm to CajunPowah
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A great coach can take a team of average players and make them a great team.
Correction: A great in-game coach can take a team of average players and make them a great team.
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Any coach can take a team full of more 5 star recruits than anyone else and make them a great team. Unless the majority of those 5 star recruits are all about themselves rather than the team, that team is going to be very good. All the coach has to do with a team of 5 stars that bring it everyday is get out of their way to one degree or another basically.
OK. So what? Part of being a great college coach is recruiting all those 5-star recruits in the first place.
If you insist on treating the word "coach" as meaning ONLY in-game coaching ability, I agree that Saban is not a great coach. I think a lot of other people would probably agree with you. The problem is that most people use the word "coach" to refer to BOTH in-game coaching and all the other aspects of coaching a team.
This post was edited on 8/6/16 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 8/6/16 at 2:29 pm to kylesch87
You are 100% correct though, all I've been referring to the entire time is Saban's actual coaching knowledge and his inability to actually take average talent players and make them better because they acquire more knowledge than other more talented players, and can put it to use in real game situations. By that measure not only is Saban not a good coach, he isnt much of anything at all.
Saban has never one time proven he could do that, in fact he proved he couldn't when he coached the Dolphins, and yes coaching in the NFL matters, its only the highest level of football in the world. He was a miserable failure with the Dolphins and was about to get shite canned, but took the sissy way out and quit instead.
Saban has never one time proven he could do that, in fact he proved he couldn't when he coached the Dolphins, and yes coaching in the NFL matters, its only the highest level of football in the world. He was a miserable failure with the Dolphins and was about to get shite canned, but took the sissy way out and quit instead.
This post was edited on 8/6/16 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 8/6/16 at 2:32 pm to DrD
Because DEFENCE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS.
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