re: Snap Judgments: The Miles Legacy

And this, ladies and gents, has always been my point. For some LSU fans, there has never been anything the guy can do to win them over... To suggest all he'd have need to do was such and such is and always has been horseshite to a large portion of our fanbase. In the end, the guy wasn't Saban and therefore not the right guy.

Knowing that is really an issue, because when there are legitimate gripes about the program and the man running it, it's far too easy to ignore them as part of the maniacal tirades of jackasses like this who disliked the guy before he stepped foot on the filed in purple and gold.

It's why having a legit conversation about the state of the program is almost impossible...because the well has been poisoned by some since January of 2005.

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Nail on the head. Some "fans" would rather be blithering idiots festering in a pile of hate than take time to enjoy our success.

winston318


Dumbass is your legacy.

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and he also lost the SEC championship in his first season

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Hey dumb-arse, he had to pull the team through a hurricane in his very first season, 11 straight games without a break, a big non-conference game on the road that was supposed to be at home, the players having family shacked up with them on campus and most losing weight because of all the stress.

But, no credit given for even playing in the SEC championship? After all they had to go through to get there. You just remember they lost. A guy two weeks from getting fired from OSU comes to the SEC and plays for the championship his first year? I'm glad you hate Miles and are miserable that he is the LSU coach. That alone makes me hope he is the LSU coach for the next 20 to 30 years.

I hope he pulls a Joe Paterno and you remain miserable and bitter. And I hope you are very disappointed on a lot of Saturdays this coming season.

I do visualize a lot of LSU fans pouting after every LSU win. Back when I was a member of Tigerbait, the busiest that board ever got was after a LSU loss. Members you never even heard of or would see any other time would come and revel in the LSU/Miles loss.

Positigers unite in this thread
I like CLM, and I hope he brings another title to BR.

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If you read between the lines with the last DC/DL hires - Alleva has basically given Miles two years to turn it around. He (Alleva) would not allow Les to offer anybody more than a two year contract. The result is Les had to settle with lower tier hires.

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Wow!! Didn't realize Orgeron was a "lower tier" hire. Thanks for enlightening me.

8&5 again if we are lucky!!!

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8&5 again if we are lucky

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Meh. B grade or better QB play will have us at 9 or 10 wins. I'm curious to see this year as a setup year for 2016. The talent level is rising on the team. My questions are:

1. QB (obviously)

2. Kevin Steele (his defense works or it doesn't - by October, we'll know)

3. Orgeron (His reputation is for recruiting and motivation, but he has also coached DL in the NFL).

I have expectations that OL play will be better - we saw some improvements over the course of last season. Depth always a question there, but I feel good about it.

We have more talent that we can put on the field at all skill positions, except QB. If both lines play a grade (heck half a grade) better than last year, and we get mid-pack SEC level QB play (and I said the same thing last year) - this team could win it all.

Talent is (almost) everything in college football. The challenge is that we play in the most talented division, in the most talented conference, in the most talented region of the country. Big fish in a big pond syndrome - there can be only 1 division, conference and national champ and we want all 3 every year (so does Auburn, Bama, Florida, UGA, etc.)

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Of all of the coaches that Bertman could have hire he picked a guy that was 2 weeks from being fired. LSU made CLM, he didn't make LSU

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Two weeks from being fired? WTH? Dude put the crack pipe down. I am friends with some pretty serious OSU alums and donors and I can assure you when he left OSU there was no one who was thinking of firing Miles.

As far as Miles and LSU and winning I will just leave this here:

Winning

The Georgia game for the SEC in 2011 was the one that first started me doubting Miles. If you recall how bad our offense was in that first half, no first downs, and how Miles reacted, he didn't. That whole half I was screaming for him to take Jefferson out and give Kenny Hilliard a shot at running the ball. He finally gave Hilliard a shot in the second half and he came through but he refused to take Jefferson out for even one play.

The ONLY reason we won that game was the Honey Badger, the defense and Brad Wing. And that totally hopeless first half on offense was just a preview of the National Championship game to come.

Miles showed his unique brand of stubborness in that game and his unwillingness to make any substantial adjustments during a game. His style of play requires a great team with superior athletes to work. He has been blessed with that for the most part since he has been at LSU.