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re: Sick of people bashing a true sophomore , 1st yr starter on a pro-style O.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 4:31 pm to kmcarabante
Posted on 1/21/16 at 4:31 pm to kmcarabante
quote:
McCarron and Luck had symilar paths
Andrew Luck's sophomore season - 70.7% completions, 3338 yards, 170.2 rating. Finished second in Heisman voting.
A.J. McCarron's sophomore season - 66.8% completions, 2634 yards, 147.3 rating, led team to a national title while shredding our best defense under Miles.
Brandon's sophomore season - 53.8% completions, 2165 yards, 130.6 rating.
One of these is not like the others.
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 4:32 pm to kmcarabante
I am completely agree with the OP, This was really Harris's first year in the saddle and got better all the way up Bama, he fades for 3 games, plays a good bowl game and then learn he was hurt. I'm a big believer, he gets the short pass and has the capacity to get better at looking off his receivers and reading the defense.
Geaux Tigers
Geaux Tigers
Posted on 1/21/16 at 4:32 pm to kmcarabante
I am completely agree with the OP, This was really Harris's first year in the saddle and got better all the way up Bama, he fades for 3 games, plays a good bowl game and then learn he was hurt. I'm a big believer, he gets the short pass and has the capacity to get better at looking off his receivers and reading the defense.
Geaux Tigers
Geaux Tigers
Posted on 1/21/16 at 4:34 pm to kmcarabante
Btw, I am not sure if I would say people are "bashing" him.
However, they are giving up way too soon. Especially considering how things work here. Other schools may very well have tremendous success with sophomore quarterbacks.. but LSU is geared more towards trust with progression. I mean at least at this position these days.. Look around the SEC as well, lots of quarterbacks progress from one season to the next.
When people say things like we still don't have a quarterback, I think they are slighting Harris. He very well has the tools and talent to progress into a solid starter. Again, were people giving up on Mett after his Junior season?
The one thing I didn't like was late in the season Harris seemed to be running slower than I felt he was capable of.. but now that we have learned of the Sports Hernia injury, I imagine that has to do with a lot of it.
My only other concern is, Harris got the ankle injury vs Auburn the year prior, then the sports hernia injury vs Alabama. I admire he's tough though.
However, they are giving up way too soon. Especially considering how things work here. Other schools may very well have tremendous success with sophomore quarterbacks.. but LSU is geared more towards trust with progression. I mean at least at this position these days.. Look around the SEC as well, lots of quarterbacks progress from one season to the next.
When people say things like we still don't have a quarterback, I think they are slighting Harris. He very well has the tools and talent to progress into a solid starter. Again, were people giving up on Mett after his Junior season?
The one thing I didn't like was late in the season Harris seemed to be running slower than I felt he was capable of.. but now that we have learned of the Sports Hernia injury, I imagine that has to do with a lot of it.
My only other concern is, Harris got the ankle injury vs Auburn the year prior, then the sports hernia injury vs Alabama. I admire he's tough though.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 4:34 pm to kmcarabante
The thing that struck me about Harris was that he seemed to be streaky - He'd have long spells where he would do very good, even stringing many completions together at certain points. Then he'd hit spots where he'd make several throws in a half or even a quarter that were not just bad, they were scratch your head bad.
I don't know if this is a good sign or a bad sign. On the one hand it shows that he has the skills to do it. On the other hand some of those bad spells were just bewildering.
Since I'm glass half full guy, I'm gonna go with that it's a good sign and he'll have a lot more of the good stretches and less of the bad ones next year.
I don't know if this is a good sign or a bad sign. On the one hand it shows that he has the skills to do it. On the other hand some of those bad spells were just bewildering.
Since I'm glass half full guy, I'm gonna go with that it's a good sign and he'll have a lot more of the good stretches and less of the bad ones next year.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 4:38 pm to kmcarabante
You should be sorry. Those of you that pump up his yardage or stats saying they were good don't really get it. The major issue is that he can't complete a simple swing pass accurately. That should have nothing to do with being pro style..its simple pitch and catch. He could not accurately do that. It is a major problem....and its hard to blame that on lack of experience. I can understand not being able to progress through his reads....but I'm talking about the 10-15 yard passes that were WAY off target. Jmo. I hope he comes out all-sec next year, but unfortunately we have seen this scene before so excuse us for not being overly opportunistic about significant improvement. Bash away.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 4:40 pm to Cs
quote:
One of these is not like the others.
Yeah, Harris was the only one who didn't get the benefit of a year to redshirt.
ETA:
Brandon's sophomore season - 148/276 53.8% 179.8 YPG 13 TD 6 INT 130.6 rating.
Andrew's sophomore season - 162/288 56.3% 198.1 YPG 13 TD 4 INT, 143.5 rating.
This post was edited on 1/21/16 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 1/21/16 at 4:41 pm to Yunel Escobar
Mett actually turned the corner at the end of 2012....Harris went the other direction. I know people claim it was all due to injury...I'm not buying...a flick of the wristvis all it takes for a 10 yard pass.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 4:43 pm to BoulderTiger
Did you miss the first half of the bowl game? Come on. He made some good throws in the second half when LSU was pulling away.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 4:44 pm to kmcarabante
quote:
kmcarabante
Be very careful there Pilgrim. You are mighty close to pumping sunshine, which is not allowed around here. You probably have called the nega-Krakens from their lair.
You are doomed.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 4:45 pm to kmcarabante
quote:Gunner was committed to LSU for about 6 weeks.
Yes , Maybe the Gunner Kiel effect has something to do..
Posted on 1/21/16 at 4:48 pm to Jwsinsport
Lol...and we don't have talent now? We got first round wrs, rbs, and olinemen. But let's blame it all on the guy who has been responsible for developing some great NFL qbs...lmao. You guys kill me....its the qbs we are going after....how many more dual threat types are we going to go after until we figure that out....
Posted on 1/21/16 at 4:50 pm to chilge1
Lol...so he is luck. Hmmmm, I wonder if luck had issues with 10 yard passes.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 4:50 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
Gunner was committed to LSU for about 6 weeks.
If you knew anything about his recruitment, you'd know that it wasn't a matter of how long he was committed, it was that he just skipped out without telling the coaching staff less than a month before NSD.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 4:51 pm to kmcarabante
quote:He is inaccurate. That isn't bashing, it is a fact.
Sick of people bashing a true sophomore , 1st yr starter on a pro-style O.
quote:It is very difficult to win with an inaccurate QB.
I think people is exagerating when they say we can't win with Harris at QB.
quote:Passer rating is a very poor indicator for a QB on a good team. QBR appears to be better, but anyone with eyes could tell that Harris did not have a good season. He was very lucky it wasn't worse. I have never seen a QB get two TD's that were completed to a receiver he wasn't throwing to in a single season.
The guy had a good season overall for a first year starter on a pro system ( 130 rating)
Posted on 1/21/16 at 4:53 pm to Choupique19
Fk yeah man...Jefferson could have probably had an NFL career. Its not his fault.....its always somebody else that is responsible for failure....I love that part of our culture.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 4:53 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
Harris did not have a good season. He was very lucky
Posted on 1/21/16 at 4:56 pm to mmcgrath
Wasting your time...they see no issue with the inability to complete mid to short passes...sometimes being several ft off....definitely won't acknowledge that a lot of balls were thrown up for superior talented wrs to go get.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 4:57 pm to SabiDojo
quote:
Lots of people don't solely blame Harris. We also blame the people who are responsible in preparing and developing Harris.
Well Harris did improve a lot from his freshman year and he improved even more since high school. Those improvements are pretty good considering he only started playing in high school and in a no huddle offense. But people don't care about a progressing true sophomore when they want excellence on every play.
Plus lets not act like coaches deserve all the blame. How much hate did Miles get for Mett's three picks against Ole Miss, even though it was Mett forcing unnecessary throws to Landry/Beckham, even though underneath throws were open.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 4:59 pm to chilge1
You seriously think that was a good season? The last four teams we played in the regular season had zero respect for the pass and placed their emphasis on stopping the run. They were willing to give up a few big plays because they knew it couldn't be sustained.
Maybe we watched different games.
Maybe we watched different games.
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