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re: SI Preseason Top 25 (LSU 23)
Posted on 8/5/15 at 5:57 pm to Tigerinthehollow
Posted on 8/5/15 at 5:57 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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you keep posting 1-2 start
I have posted this ONE TIME... In this thread in reference to what SI may be thinking... I have NEVER said LSU would start 1-2.... LSU should start 3-0. But hey lets hope it plays out on the field in LSU'S favor..........
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...then I wouldn't trade THIS offense for anyones. It will be a perfect wear you down, ball control offense that begins to dominate as the game wears on...
Very good point... And theres the potential for this to happen....
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It's the most effective offense in college football TODAY
I agree... IF[and a BIG IF] you can get the QB to be effective enough...
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State doesn't re-load, they re-build
Look at a depth chart and look at all the jrs and srs they have.... That's experience on the team and in the system... How good they are is still unproven, But to dismiss them just because of their past is showing how uninformed you really are..... You make itsound like MSU s gonna start a bunch of freshman and sophmres.... That will not be the case....
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Posted on 8/5/15 at 5:58 pm to Tigerinthehollow
I have LSU finishing 9-3. I certainly don't think that is "negative".
Posted on 8/5/15 at 6:03 pm to dukke v
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But to dismiss them just because of their past is showing how uninformed you really are..
I'm dismissing them because they lost 15 starters and don't have elite talent to start with. Despite what you think...this is the reason they have the past they have. Until they can start hauling in top 10 recruiting classes......the stars will align for them only ever so often, and it won't be frequent. Not only do they need a lot of returning, experienced starters, but they need help from other teams with elite talent being down. This happened last year with State, and with both LSU, Auburn, and to a degree Texas A&M....even though I certainly don't have A&M as elite....they do have much better talent than State.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 6:07 pm to JBeam
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I have LSU finishing 9-3. I certainly don't think that is "negative".
You are quite often negative on here, and that is a fact...and you are very prone to knee-jerk. I personally think 9-3 would be a big disappointment...especially after going 8-4 last year and being a count hair away from 9-3 after blowing the bama game. With 16 returning Starters, and TF such as Fournette, Dupree, Harris, Quinn, Godcheaux, Adams, Paris, and a host of elite new kids.....I'd be disappointed with 9-3...but it wouldn't be the end of the world.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 6:13 pm to Tigerinthehollow
To each his/her own. With a QB situation that hasn't been solved, new DC hire & a tough road schedule. I think 9-3 would be looked at in a positive light.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 6:23 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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Until they can start hauling in top 10 recruiting classes
They haven't had a top 20 recruiting class in years. Yet something happened that brought them to 10 wins last year... Mullen has done a pretty good job as far as getting this team where it is.... Are they a top 20 team??? NO... Will they finish in the bottom half of the West??? Hard to say... But they are NOT the whipping child of teams like they used to be....
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LSU, Auburn, and to a degree Texas A&M....even though I certainly don't have A&M as elite
A & M and LSU as of right now are NOT elite... AU really isn't either by the way last year finished for them....The ONLY elite team in the SEC is Bama and they may even be down a notch or two this year.... To be honest THIS may be the year that ZERO teams from the SEC will make the playoff... They will beat each other up.....
Posted on 8/5/15 at 6:29 pm to emanresu
Glad I cancelled my script 30 years ago.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 6:33 pm to dukke v
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They haven't had a top 20 recruiting class in years
Yes and it shows in their results.
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Yet something happened that brought them to 10 wins last year
yes, they had a shitload of returning starters who were majority 4-5 year players...combined with LSU and Auburn being down.
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But they are NOT the whipping child of teams like they used to be....
They lose one player, and they likely go 3-9....4-8 at best. If you think that is a TEAM...then more power to you. They could easily be a whipping child this year. As I previously stated, I firmly expect LSU to go to Starkville and win by 10-17 points.
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A & M and LSU as of right now are NOT elite.
Please don't pair up A&M with LSU. They aren't in the same continent. LSU has ELITE talent as of right now....YES, elite. They had a bad year....so the frick what...they were EXTREMELY young with a YOUNG QB. It happens. They still faught like hell, and got back into the race before blowing the game to Alabama.
You try and use a 1 or 2 year sample size to define elite. But, it's what people like you do to try and spin things your way....overall, since Miles has been at LSU...they have achieved elite success in the SEC and Nationally. It's not debatable. There has also been some very good fortune with your idols team....I don't have to repeat it here as we have all heard it a million times...but the outcome of one or two games is literally the difference in overall BELIEF in superiority. One single game decided much....again, had OSU been in that game....both teams have 2 NC's......since Miles and Saban have been at their current teams....and LSU didn't get the luxury of playing Notre Dame that year, and Texas without their star QB........but hey......we all know where your allegiance lies.....carry on.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 6:45 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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They had a bad year....so the frick what...
Exactly..........
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LSU has ELITE talent as of right now....YES, elite
I don't know what planet you are on but 8-5 with ALL this so-called talent[I don't care how young] is NOT elite...
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You try and use a 1 or 2 year sample size to define elite
Show me where I have done this??????
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But, it's what people like you do to try and spin things your way
I don't need to SPIN anything... Your problem is that if anyone says anything bad about LSU[true or not] you go into full pussy mode....... I hope LSU SMOKES both MSU and AU... You keep saying 10-17 points over MSU.. Ill take a one point win...
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There has also been some very good fortune with your idols team....
Ok so Bama has been nothing but lucky???? OK.....
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again, had OSU been in that game....both teams have 2 NC's......
You don't know LSU beats OSU... There will never be a way of knowing... But they should have been given the chance.... Bama had theirs..........
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and LSU didn't get the luxury of playing Notre Dame that year, and Texas without their star QB
Bama played who was put in front of them... How is that anyones fault?????
Posted on 8/5/15 at 6:51 pm to JBeam
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With a QB situation that hasn't been solved
You literally have no idea what the QB situation will be like for LSU this year. NONE. You are just a knee-jerk young punk who THINKS they know it all. I love the fact that we have two young guys back that now have significant experience in college and SEC football. There are a handful of teams out there that have QB issues and NO SEC QB experience to draw from...yet you dismiss that. The guys were young last year...LSU has a good QB coach, and I'll trust that these guys, BOTH of them, will be greatly improved this year.
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new DC
so do 3 other teams in the West this year.....
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tough road schedule
As opposed to all the other teams with easy road schedules. Got ya. I actually think LSU's road schedule is not bad. They will handle Miss State, and all those new starters...with easy...AND it's early in the year. Last year reversed. Ole Miss has no running game, a new QB, and a suspect OL...and we are a matchup problem with them because we are a big physical/power running team and they are built for the spread. SC is down, way down, and believe it or not big boy, We have had pretty fair luck at Alabama over the last several years.
Your problem is that you can't see the big picture...you are isolated only on the issues at LSU without looking at the issues at other schools.....I'll take 16 talented, returning starters all day long every single day of the week...and take my chances.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 6:54 pm to emanresu
Don't understand Notre Dame at #4
Posted on 8/5/15 at 7:10 pm to dukke v
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I don't know what planet you are on but 8-5 with ALL this so-called talent[I don't care how young] is NOT elite...
and that, in a nutshell peej, tells anyone on here over the age of 21 exactly how dumb you are. Anyone with any intelligence realizes that while talented....TF are going to frick up. After the first two games last year, people, you included, were saying LSU would be lucky to win 1 SEC game...at best. I came on and said I still thought 8-4.....and even I undersold the improvement the team made. Yes they made 8-4 but literally handed the game to bama...and they actually got back into the SEC race...after 95% of this board had written them off....some very, very happy that they were losing.
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You try and use a 1 or 2 year sample size to define elite Show me where I have done this??????
Well you certainly aren't factoring in 2011 and 2012 are you now...you can and will shite on those years I'm sure...but they were pretty damn elite years...and both were with less than great QB play. You, like the other negatigers, like to pick years selectively to point out as trends.
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Your problem is that if anyone says anything bad about LSU[true or not] you go into full pussy mode
Oh I admit I have a problem with dumbasses....it's a fact...I do. I love the stupid frickers on this site that ALREADY know how our season and how our QB play will play out. They act like it's a normal thing for us to have 8-4 type seasons...when in fact it's only happened twice in the 10 years miles has been here...both came after there were huge losses of starters.......I don't care if people think LSU won't be great...but don't give me the results of the season already before a down is played because you have no idea about offense or qb play...at this point. I do understand though that most of those doing that are 20 year old punk kids that know it all.
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Ok so Bama has been nothing but lucky???? OK.....
Bama is extremely talented...without question. So is LSU. Bama has had some very fortunate things happen to them over the last several years that sure as hell didn't hurt them. They seem to get a ton of breaks.....in 2009 the PP interception...go on to play Texas in the NC game....Texas loses star QB in first quarter......still made game of it. Not saying Texas wins...but it certainly didn't help their case.
In 2011, obviously, they get a do over. Call it what you want, and I'm not going to debate it...but LSU did, in fact, go to Bama and beat them during the regular season. Had OSU been awarded the NC game, it is VERY likely that LSU and Miles currently have 2 NC's and Saban and Bama have 2..with current teams. Fast forward to 2012....good year...LSU giftwraps game in BR....but they are fortunate to draw ND in NC game. Fast forward to 2013......the SEC committee determines there needs to be a schedule change......lol.....they swap Georgia and Ky with LSU and Bama......and did it with a straight face.....ha
Alabama is very good.....they have been fortunate as well...as has LSU. End of discussion.
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Bama played who was put in front of them... How is that anyones fault?????
look up the definition of fortunate
Posted on 8/5/15 at 7:23 pm to Tigerinthehollow
quote:You really have a difficult time expressing your point without trying to insult someone. IDK why thats the case. But it's kind of pathetic that at your old age you have the enability to have a normal conversation with someone who disagrees with you.
You literally have no idea what the QB situation will be like for LSU this year. NONE. You are just a knee-jerk young punk who THINKS they know it all. I love the fact that we have two young guys back that now have significant experience in college and SEC football. There are a handful of teams out there that have QB issues and NO SEC QB experience to draw from...yet you dismiss that. The guys were young last year...LSU has a good QB coach, and I'll trust that these guys, BOTH of them, will be greatly improved this year.
It's not far fetched to assume that the two QB's will share time during this season.
This post was edited on 8/5/15 at 7:25 pm
Posted on 8/5/15 at 7:26 pm to emanresu
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4. Notre Dame
Stopped reading here
Posted on 8/5/15 at 7:30 pm to JBeam
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You really have a difficult time expressing your point without trying to insult someone
because I think dumbass posts need to be met with azzhole replies....or either banning. I'm not saying one of these guys is going to win the Heisman....but it isn't far-fetched (as you say) to think that both could and will improve significantly with a year of experience and coaching from Cam. Additionally, this team is so much better than last year's team...just by the guys returning with experience.....that with the same exact QB play last year they would likely win 10 games. They will be that much better in every other phase of the game. Did our QB play suck last year...most definitely....can it improve significantly??? most definitely. Will it improve? More than likely. It's frustrating the kids on here that say "Jennings = 5 losses". It's like you kids can't see the bigger picture...which I understand is hard and 20 and 21....but man....have a little faith. In ten years at LSU, Miles has lost 4 or more games exactly twice during the regular season...with both coming after we were raped with player losses the preceding year. That isn't the case this year...so I'll trust that Miles will live up to his other 80%......instead of going with the most negative outcome possible.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 7:32 pm to JBeam
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But it's kind of pathetic that at your old age
yep, in my 40's...old as dirt. Be careful kid....with who you call old....it'll get there quicker than you realize...but then....us old guys have very little wisdom for things like that huh.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 7:34 pm to atltiger6487
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No polls matter. They're just people voting. Irrelevant.
this
i always LOL at some of you guys who get so pissed because of what some writers think. ya know what, who cares?
what does it mean? nothing!!
just win baby and we will be there in the end.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 7:55 pm to emanresu
The disrespect for the #23 team is not surprising considering where it is coming from (SI), and the hype of the #2 team holds no real logic, just a bunch of hope.
How can LSU get worse in the passing game? WRs now have experience and QBs now have experience. We lost 5 starters on offense after 2013, that started at least 6 games in the NFL as rookies. Despite that, we still finished with 8 wins. You mean to tell me now with experience at QB, WR, Fournette, Beckwith, Godchaux, LaCouture, and Adams, we are going to somehow stay EXACTLY the same or get WORSE?
Doesn't make any got damn sense.
How can LSU get worse in the passing game? WRs now have experience and QBs now have experience. We lost 5 starters on offense after 2013, that started at least 6 games in the NFL as rookies. Despite that, we still finished with 8 wins. You mean to tell me now with experience at QB, WR, Fournette, Beckwith, Godchaux, LaCouture, and Adams, we are going to somehow stay EXACTLY the same or get WORSE?
Doesn't make any got damn sense.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 8:07 pm to JBeam
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Outside of ND being in the top five. I'm okay with this.
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2. Auburn
You know what, I'm not even going to argue this.
Posted on 8/6/15 at 12:10 pm to Tigerinthehollow
Thank you, Mr. Hollow(head).
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