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re: Regarding giving Saban time to prepare
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:44 pm to jeffturnright
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:44 pm to jeffturnright
Not afraid of Saban.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 11:17 pm to Red Stick Tigress
I will give it to Bama, their defense is stout, but it is annoying when they try to compare them to LSU. They play a very different style of defense than LSU and LSU has played MUCH better offensive competition.
As Todd McShay said, and I agree, LSU has gotten much better offensively since the Bama game. Bama has not really progressed or digressed since that time.
As Todd McShay said, and I agree, LSU has gotten much better offensively since the Bama game. Bama has not really progressed or digressed since that time.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 11:20 pm to jeffturnright
I agree with the tone and content of your post. Strong work
Posted on 12/17/11 at 11:30 pm to tford50
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I think by the time this game comes around Nicky is going to be a basket case. He probably won't sleep the whole week before the game. He will go into the game all tight assed and since most teams are a reflection of their coach I think the team will also play tight, afraid to make a mistake so they don't feel the "Wrath of lil Nicky Saban.". The Tigers will play loose and with swagger as they have all year. I think that playing them already, and beating them, takes the uncertainty away and gives us even more confidence which will make us play even better. Don't be surprised if the Tigers win by 10+.
THIS!!!
Posted on 12/17/11 at 11:33 pm to Red Stick Tigress
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Saban is 2-0 in NCG's if we are throwing out stats
Wow! Same winning pct as Miles. One of those Saban victories was vs a Garret Gilbert QB'd team.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 11:39 pm to jeffturnright
quote:added a bowl loss for you.
Does no one remember Iowa, Utah, Texas, LSU etc.
Posted on 12/18/11 at 12:55 am to La Place Mike
I was at the Cap One Bowl loss to Iowa. It still makes me want to punch Saban in the mouth.
Posted on 12/18/11 at 1:01 am to tigerpimpbot
He will have over 6 weeks to prepare, if you lose after preparing for 1 game for 6 weeks
Bend Over $aban
Bend Over $aban
Posted on 12/18/11 at 1:05 am to DennyChimes10
quote:
Saban is 2-0 in NCG's if we are throwing out stats
Cool.. but his last visit to a BCS bowl in NO. Wasn't o great.
Posted on 12/18/11 at 1:05 am to jeffturnright
Giving an obsessive/compulsive like Saban extra time to compare is like giving Captain Queeg an extra helping of strawberries.
Posted on 12/18/11 at 1:13 am to Jim Rockford
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Giving an obsessive/compulsive like Saban extra time to compare is like giving Captain Queeg an extra helping of strawberries.
And just like Captain Queeg... with Saban, it's ALWAYS someone else's fault.
Posted on 12/18/11 at 2:14 am to jeffturnright
Before they played Utah in the Sugar Bowl, all the analysts were talking non-stop about how Saban would have his team prepared with the extra time. Having seen Saban's teams struggle against inferior teams after open dates and in bowl games through the years, I just shook my head. Miles is a much better bowl coach,
Posted on 12/18/11 at 5:01 am to tford50
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I think by the time this game comes around Nicky is going to be a basket case. He probably won't sleep the whole week before the game. He will go into the game all tight assed and since most teams are a reflection of their coach I think the team will also play tight, afraid to make a mistake so they don't feel the "Wrath of lil Nicky Saban.". The Tigers will play loose and with swagger as they have all year. I think that playing them already, and beating them, takes the uncertainty away and gives us even more confidence which will make us play even better. Don't be surprised if the Tigers win by 10+.
I agree. LSU is in Saban's head because he coached here and as soon as he left, regretted doing so. He got back into the college game at a place that is loving him yet has a cult hero that casts a huge shadow over Saban. Funny how the houndstooth craze in every item in Tuscaloosa started to take off about the time they hired Saban. That, in itself, is a reminder to Saban that there was someone much bigger than him and he will never be as great as that man while he is there.
In our worst year with Miles, we went into overtime with the gumps. Miles has the psychological edge over Saban in this rivalry.
Posted on 12/18/11 at 5:55 am to jeffturnright
Extra time really does not seem to help Saban teams much. That turd of a loss to Florida in 2003 was with 2 weeks of preparation. The next year we nearly lost to facking Troy after a bye. Saban is obviously a good coach but it is interesting that his record after time off is spotty.
Posted on 12/18/11 at 6:47 am to Tigris
Saban can start preparing his Christmas dinner perhaps~as his guys (cough cough) don't hit the practice field til Monday, while LSU ??? been there~done that!
Posted on 12/18/11 at 7:21 am to fr33manator
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There will be no joy in grinchville...
FIFY
Posted on 12/18/11 at 9:38 am to Pleasenewdc
No matter if Lsu wins again, the Gumps will say what they did the first time, WE BEAT OURSELVES! As I live among them, after the first game I just put on my Howdy Dodie smile & they went MAD!
Posted on 12/18/11 at 10:32 am to cajunjj
My personal theory is that extra time actually hurts Saban.
Week over week, one of Saban's biggest edges is his ability to out work and be more efficient than other coaches. Eating lunch at their desk, working 120-140 hour weeks, etc.
In a single week this is a huge advantage, but over 2 weeks this edge gets diluted. Over a month, it almost has no effect at all.
Just my thoughts though.
Week over week, one of Saban's biggest edges is his ability to out work and be more efficient than other coaches. Eating lunch at their desk, working 120-140 hour weeks, etc.
In a single week this is a huge advantage, but over 2 weeks this edge gets diluted. Over a month, it almost has no effect at all.
Just my thoughts though.
Posted on 12/18/11 at 10:39 am to jeffturnright
Saban after bye weeks:
3-5 at Michigan State: feasted on 3 win Minnesota and 0-11 Illinois after byes in 1997
7-3 at LSU...
Saban's LSU Record after Open Dates, 2000-2004
(home team in all caps)
11.4.00, (8-4) LSU 30, (3-8) Alabama 28 - Tied going into the fourth. Two point victory at home over a 3-8 team that lost to UCF in Tuscaloosa the week before
11.25.00, (8-4) lsu 3, (6-6) ARKANSAS 14 - LOSS
9.29.01, (10-3) lsu 18, (11-2) TENNESSEE 26 - LOSS
11.23.01, (10-3) LSU 41, (7-5) Arkansas 38- 3 point win at home
9.28.02, (8-5) LSU 31, (3-9) Miss. State 13
11.9.02, (8-5) lsu 33, (7-5) KENTUCKY 30 - needed 75 yard hail mary to win on last play against a UK team on probation
10.11.03, (13-1) LSU 7, (8-5) Florida 19 -Loss at home with a national championship team to a Ron Zook coached team lead by a true freshman QB
11.15.03, (13-1) lsu 27, (4-9) ALABAMA 3 -lol
10.23.04, (9-3) LSU 24, (7-5) Troy 20 - Tied going into the 4th with a Troy team that lost to Arkansas State and New Mexico State.
11.13.04, (9-3) LSU 26, (6-6) Alabama 10 - lol
3-3 at Bama:
2007: lsu 41 BAMA 34
2008: BAMA 24 Ole Miss 20
2008: BAMA 36 Auburn 0
2009: BAMA 24 lsu 15
2010: LSU 24 bama 21
2011: LSU 9 bama 6
6-6 overall in Bowls:
0-3 at Michigan State
3-2 at LSU
3-1 at Bama
1-1 after Byes with the Dolphins including a loss to a 5-11 Bills team
3-5 at Michigan State: feasted on 3 win Minnesota and 0-11 Illinois after byes in 1997
7-3 at LSU...
Saban's LSU Record after Open Dates, 2000-2004
(home team in all caps)
11.4.00, (8-4) LSU 30, (3-8) Alabama 28 - Tied going into the fourth. Two point victory at home over a 3-8 team that lost to UCF in Tuscaloosa the week before
11.25.00, (8-4) lsu 3, (6-6) ARKANSAS 14 - LOSS
9.29.01, (10-3) lsu 18, (11-2) TENNESSEE 26 - LOSS
11.23.01, (10-3) LSU 41, (7-5) Arkansas 38- 3 point win at home
9.28.02, (8-5) LSU 31, (3-9) Miss. State 13
11.9.02, (8-5) lsu 33, (7-5) KENTUCKY 30 - needed 75 yard hail mary to win on last play against a UK team on probation
10.11.03, (13-1) LSU 7, (8-5) Florida 19 -Loss at home with a national championship team to a Ron Zook coached team lead by a true freshman QB
11.15.03, (13-1) lsu 27, (4-9) ALABAMA 3 -lol
10.23.04, (9-3) LSU 24, (7-5) Troy 20 - Tied going into the 4th with a Troy team that lost to Arkansas State and New Mexico State.
11.13.04, (9-3) LSU 26, (6-6) Alabama 10 - lol
3-3 at Bama:
2007: lsu 41 BAMA 34
2008: BAMA 24 Ole Miss 20
2008: BAMA 36 Auburn 0
2009: BAMA 24 lsu 15
2010: LSU 24 bama 21
2011: LSU 9 bama 6
6-6 overall in Bowls:
0-3 at Michigan State
3-2 at LSU
3-1 at Bama
1-1 after Byes with the Dolphins including a loss to a 5-11 Bills team
Posted on 12/18/11 at 10:42 am to jeffturnright
The only bowl game Les has lost at LSU was in 6 inches of mud. Neutralized our strengths. I have a lot of faith in our coach when given time. Especially with this talent.
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