re: Probably Germans...but McElroy says Saban responsible for LSU Success

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He's the best in the business.

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i'll be you think that there are no black coaches who are as good as saban. amirite?

Quote :LSU is responsible for Saban's success every bit as much as Saban is responsible for LSU's. Saban would not be where he is today if he was puddling around in East lansing for another 5 years. LSu gave him the opportunity and all the resources in the world to establish himself, including a roster with a plethora of talent he inherited from Dinardo. I always found it odd that Saban gets 100% of the credit for the players he coached that were signed and recruited by Dinardo but Les seemed to get 0% of the players signed by Saban but coached by him. The hypocrisy of it all is astounding. And still, 10 years later, we have slapdicks saying LSU's success rests squarely on the shoulders of Nick Saban. Give me a fricking break. How well did that work out for Ron Zook at Florida, Will Muschamp at Florida, Larry Coker at Miami, Frank Solich at Nebraska, Bob Davie at Notre Dame, and so on and so forth. Yes, Nick Saban is a great coach, probably the best in the country and one of the best of all time, but to continue to act like LSU is what it is because of him, 10 years later, is such a joke. People seem to think Saban was as good as he is now when he was at LSU. He wasn't. Let us all be reminded that he had exactly one season at LSU where he lost fewer than 3 games.


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including a roster with a plethora of talent he inherited from Dinardo.

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Sabanistas act as if the cupboard was bare - in fact that is far more true of when Dinardo took over, than when Saban took over. Dinardo righted the ship from a fundamental standpoint and, above all else, got LSU fans to believe we could win again. First season, we lose the opener at aTm (again) - and comfortably handle MSU in Starkville. The home opener was the Bring Back the Magic game. The rest was history.

Wins over ranked Auburn and Arkansas, as well as a respectable showing against Bama in 1995 set the stage for 1996, only the third 10-win season since 1958. 1997 saw us beat Florida - ending a 9-game winning streak for them in the series, as well as a win over Notre Dame in the Indy Bowl, after losing to them in the regular season. We also crushed Bama in T-Town, 27-0.

1998 was one of those weird seasons - looks terrible on paper - 4-7, 2-6 in conference, but looking at the losses - 27-28 to UGA, 36-39 to Kentucky, 31-37 (OT) @ Ole Miss, 36-39 @ Notre Dame - as few as 12 points could have flipped all 4 of those. While Florida and Arkansas handled us fairly easily, we only lost by 6 to Bama.

I'm not going to defend 1999, but it wasn't because the program was on bad footing or lacked talent at that point - there were off-the-field problems, and we had a terrible defensive coordinator to whom Dinardo was loyal to a fault.

So all that building up that Dinardo did from virtually zero.

To Saban's credit he definitely built upon that and his particular focus was infrastructure/facility improvements. But to pretend that he came into a program that had not been significantly rebuilt by Dinardo after a decade of losing - for perspective, LSU had gone 43-46-1 over the 8 seasons prior to Dinardo, and he went a very serviceable 32-24-1 over 5 seasons.

Sure it makes sense.

It order to see it, it requires people to extend NS the credit he's earned and deserves.

If you take into account all sports and all ADs and GMs and the hires they make.....the majority of the time they don't work out.
NS has hit for the cycle and and a grand slam.

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It order to see it, it requires people to extend NS the credit he's earned and deserves.

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There are few on this board more critical of Saban than I am.

His resume at LSU speaks for itself:

75% win percentage,

The only 13 win season in school history,

First NC in 45 years,

First victory over Bama in TS since 1969,

Only the second coach to register multiple 10-win seasons,

First outright conference championship in 15 years - only the 3rd LSU coach to win multiple conference championships,

First head coach to lead LSU to 5 consecutive bowl appearances (although we've had runs over multiple coaches in the past - plus LSU/Mac got screwed in '69 or he would have led a run of 7)


Negatives - loses first non-conference game as LSU head coach - and to UAB, at that. Lost last game as LSU head coach - a bowl game. Constant flirting with NFL teams was a distraction every off-season. Was/is a gigantic prick.

The bottomline is that Saban took over from Dinardo and took it one step farther in putting LSU on the map. Dinardo brought the spirit and winning seasons back*, Saban brought the defense and winning championships back.

ETA: *granted, 98/99 weren't winning but I really do think he would have done alright in 2000 again

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Ah I see gray tiger is at it again being his normal dickish self!


Just can't stand it can you?

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Coming from an uberdick like you that's a compliment.
Penis on dude penis on.

Yes Nick Saban is the reason for starting the success at LSU, but in no way shape or form is he the reason for our continued success! For you people who are still on Saban's nuts, yes he did win us our 1st NC since the 50's but other than that he didn't have any better seasons than coach Miles. I think some were kinda worse coach Miles has never loss to UAB or a team like that. Just because Saban won NC's at Bama doesn't mean he would've here! Coach Miles is da man their is no one I would trade him for!

fricks I give: 0

Curley was responsible for every thing since!!!