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Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:24 pm to Chimlim
Absolutely , finally someone with sence
Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:27 pm to rumproast
I can answer this for you guys. It isn'y Saban, and it isn't Miles; it's the decision makers who decided LSU football would be great and chose to deploy our capital on first class coaches and first class facilities. Long after Saban and Miles are gone from this life greatness will belong to those of spirit who reach for it, just as it always has. Saban and Miles are hired guns; we can always hire others. Greatness, for LSU football will always rise and fall on the expectations, committment, and audacity of its regents and the people whom they serve. 
Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:34 pm to Penrod
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This post was edited on 6/27/14 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:37 pm to harry coleman beast
So are about 1,000 other people. Go throw an NFL pass.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:38 pm to Salviati
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LSU was successful while Saban coached at LSU. However, Saban did not revive the program, and the program is not successful now because of Saban.
Saban did a fine job in Baton Rouge. I wish we escaped the once a year 4 td loss like Alabama has,but he did wonders. But to continue to give Saban credit for LSU's success in 2014 is stupid and only the Sabanistas here who still dream about the man would feel that way.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:58 pm to Chimlim
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Chimlim
i would be absolutely shocked if you and i don't know each other. are you the dimlim llama?
Posted on 6/27/14 at 5:03 pm to I-59 Tiger
One problem is there's an air about GM's quotes that try to make it as if Saban is Bama-by-nature and this "Bama coach" is the only reason LSU is even successful today. Bamaites see the universe totally through crimson perspective. It all ties back to them so to think this is anything but more Bama- worship is short-sided. Is there some truth to it? Sure. Is there also delusion? Absolutely.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 5:14 pm to geauxjo
mcelroy is a count that will never be a starter in the NFL...he can GFH
Posted on 6/27/14 at 5:18 pm to rumproast
The comments below that article by someone called "devils advocate" are interesting. Not sure if he is the same guy that goes by that name on here but either way he is a stupid motherfricker. He states that Miles won a championship in 2007 with Saban's players and has won zero with his players. But at the sametime he gives Saban credit as having won the 2009 title with his recruits. Really? This dude believes this? Both won titles in the 3rd year with their team. So how does Saban get credit for recruits that were signed while he was coaching the dolphins? He must be one of the creators of Obamacare with thinking like that.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 5:21 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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So how does Saban get credit for recruits that were signed while he was coaching the dolphins?
because alabama
This post was edited on 6/27/14 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 6/27/14 at 5:30 pm to Samso
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Samso
When the debate is lost the loser turns to slander.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 5:36 pm to rumproast
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McElroy
can eat a big old bag of dicks, for all I care.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 5:51 pm to Penrod
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I can answer this for you guys. It isn'y Saban, and it isn't Miles; it's the decision makers who decided LSU football would be great and chose to deploy our capital on first class coaches and first class facilities.
I understand your point, but I think both of the coaches have done a fine job as well. There are schools that pump money into the program without the success that LSU has experienced. Not every coach is a success even when highly compensated.
This post was edited on 6/27/14 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:16 pm to Datbayoubengal
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Why is it so bad to say Saban won with other people's recruits (Dinardo, Shula), but you think it's OK to say Les won with Saban's?
First of all, I didn't say anything about Les winning with Saban's guys. I don't even care about any of that, when some of these rantards will argue for 20 pages over that.
Dinardo just flat out didn't get it done. My point is, once Saban left and everyone hated him, everyone took all his credit away, and started giving Dinardo all this credit about getting the ball rolling. Which is absolute bullshite.
winning a national title with 3 or 4 of Dinardo's recruits is a very tiny percent of the impact Saban left.
the biggest things were putting a fence around LA, getting our fans back interested in the program, & the improvements to our facilities.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 7:07 pm to rumproast
Little Nicky is responsible. He built the program back up and brought back the LA talent. Mike Archer left the local talent alone in the 80's and went for the big out of staters while those out of state programs plucked LA boys left and right. Add to that the disaster that was Curly Hallman and the quick decline of Dinardo and Saban WAS responsible for the success of the LSU program and Leslie has ridden that wave quite well. Leslie continued to keep the players in state and hired the best Offensive and Defensive minds possible. He is a good CEO coach, as Spurrier said, but I doubt his ability to actually coach X's and O's as evidenced by the amateurish clock problems and his inability to speak English.
This post was edited on 6/27/14 at 7:21 pm
Posted on 6/27/14 at 7:19 pm to Farkwad
Mark Emmert didn't know how successful NS was going to be.
He hired best guy he had at time.
Saban's record since that day speaks for itself.
Nothing to do with Mark E.
I know it kills some of you, but give the short guy his due.
He's the best in the business.
He hired best guy he had at time.
Saban's record since that day speaks for itself.
Nothing to do with Mark E.
I know it kills some of you, but give the short guy his due.
He's the best in the business.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 7:19 pm to TIGRLEE
I agree with TigerLee
Posted on 6/27/14 at 7:21 pm to Farkwad
It's a fact.
It's not my opinion.
You obv aren't a butthurt fricking moron, like half this board....so of course you agree with me.
It's not my opinion.
You obv aren't a butthurt fricking moron, like half this board....so of course you agree with me.
This post was edited on 6/27/14 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 6/27/14 at 9:46 pm to Farkwad
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He is a good CEO coach, as Spurrier said, but I doubt his ability to actually coach X's and O's as evidenced by the amateurish clock problems and his inability to speak English.
I am assuming that you have been to numerous LSU staff meetings and have a lot of college football coaching experience which enables you to judge how much of an X's and O's coach Miles is.
Please tell us more about your experience and accomplishments.
I'm willing to bet that Miles' English is way better than yours is. Huh dat rite, sha?
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