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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:06 pm to
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:06 pm to
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The real test is to see JJs motion when under pressure and he has to look to secndary receiver. He has always thrown well with time to stare down the primary receiver.


Improving his motion ENABLES him to get the ball off when under pressure.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:07 pm to
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By the way, his video is showing the underclassmen, not JJ


Not initially
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:07 pm to
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Both of those guys may have improved their mechanics slightly, but those weren't the reasons they blew up on offense. They blew up because the offenses were adjusted to their skills.
You are reaching.

The only difference between UTa 05 and UTa 04 is Young's improvement as a QB.

Same offense.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:08 pm to
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Are we talking college or pro ball here, because last I checked what JJ does in the pros doesn't mean jack right now


Oh, you are one of those guys.

So fixing JJ mechanics would work NEXT year, but not now, no way in hell. Gotcha.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:09 pm to
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Improving his motion ENABLES him to get the ball off when under pressure.



the correct point is to see if he can employ improved motion under pressure...many athletes who make changes revert to old habits under pressure.
Posted by Sports2
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:09 pm to
I was watching the 07 florida game, and it was night and day between flynn and jordan on decision making and getting the ball out quickly. The more I think about it, I really think LSU screwed themselves the year after the pick six fest by harping on not turning the ball over with jefferson. I think it stunted his ability to "play" if that makes sense. I think this Krag thing is important, not because of play calling, but more so because of his ability to get Jordan back to a comfort level with the game. Jordan's never been as confident as he is now, I think that is why he is better. Sure he's done more book work, film and mechanics, but I always thought it was mostly mental with him. It would be nice to see him "unchained" for lack of abetter phrase, and just out there riffing within his skill set.
Posted by Geaux2002
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:10 pm to
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The only difference between UTa 05 and UTa 04 is Young's improvement as a QB.


You really think that? It had nothing to do with UT changing the offense mid season? Of course not, because that fact wouldn't fit your argument.

JJ does look better playing catch. Good for him, but it doesn't mean shite until he gets on the field and proves it. You could've said the same for Lee last year. His mechanics and footwork are beautiful during catch sessions, but then the real game comes and he's back to throwing off his back foot.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:10 pm to
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the correct point is to see if he can employ improved motion under pressure...many athletes who make changes revert to old habits under pressure.

That I agree with. Like I said, it remains to be seen if it translates onto the field.

But those acting as though it is meaningless or of minimal importance are blatantly disregarding reality.
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:11 pm to
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You really think that?
I know that.

What was the difference between 04 and 05? Same spread.

I mean other than his obvious improvement in mechanics which led him to leading the nation in passing efficiency.
This post was edited on 8/4/11 at 11:14 pm
Posted by smash williams
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:12 pm to
Thanks for the vid, Odell and Ware looking real smooth out there.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:12 pm to
I agree on your assessment of JJ, seems he has always played scared of making a mistake. A sure way to screw up. However, I think he had a big improvement opportunity with mechanics.
Posted by TIGRLEE
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:13 pm to
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Improving his motion ENABLES him to get the ball off when under pressure.


KNOWING WHERE TO THROW THE BALL helps you get ball off under pressure.

This mechanic imporvent pep rally some of you are involoved in right now is great, but it downt solve the main issue with JJ.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:13 pm to
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JJ does look better playing catch


Isnt that what everyone has already said, did they say we beat Oregon?


No need get all your dickness out on practice session 1, wait till SEC play at least.
Posted by fbb
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:14 pm to
It will be interesting to watch Rivers develop.
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:14 pm to
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KNOWING WHERE TO THROW THE BALL helps you get ball off under pressure.
Not if you are winding up to throw. Doesn't matter if you know where to throw it, if you can't get it off in time.

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but it downt solve the main issue with JJ.

His major issue was inconsistency. One of the major causes of this was inconsistent mechanics in his throws.

If you have a long throwing motion, you can throw it to the right receiver every time. . .and yet you gave the DB time to recover.
This post was edited on 8/4/11 at 11:18 pm
Posted by Geaux2002
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:15 pm to
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I know that.



Sure you do.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:15 pm to
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Mechanics weren't JJ's major problems. He had poor mechanics, but that was the least of his issues. The mental part of the game, quick decision making and lack of leadership skills were his issues. I hope those are improved.



Will see. All the predictions or rehashing last year is meaningless at this point. It's one of those "believe it when I see it" things.

Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:15 pm to
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mechanic imporvent pep rally some of you are involoved in right now is great, but it downt solve the main issue with JJ.


It doesnt matter if you know to throw to the flat or the post if you have terrible footwork or mechanics. You just cant get it there. They go hand in hand.

No one is handing JJ a MVP trophy, Christ. But it is at least a chance at a servicable QB. WTF is wrong with yall miserable folks.
Posted by Slinger16
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:16 pm to
Krags isn't leaving, and he will keep his most important role on the coaching staff (i.e. QB coach).

Coach Stud drawing up a game plan is what has me nervous.
Posted by TIGRLEE
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:17 pm to
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Not if you are winding up to throw. Doesn't matter if you know where to throw it, if you can't get it off in time.

rooad you are smart enought to re read the above and see what that incinuates.
I dont have to tell you.
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