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re: Practice Day 1 Video

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Posted by Sports2
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 10:55 pm to
Here's the afternoon session -

LINK
Posted by Geaux2002
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 10:56 pm to
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these two things go hand in hand



Actually no they don't. Not at all.

Tebow and Young are prime examples of forcing mechanics hurting them. Once the coaches let them loose, they tore things up, in particular young.

Most of those things have absolutely nothing to do with mechanics, and watching a video of catch with no defenders in sight doesn't mean shite.
This post was edited on 8/4/11 at 10:57 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 10:56 pm to
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Pretty easy when there is no defense and he is just throwing to random reads.
But he looks better than last year, against no defense.

We call that improvement, where I come from. You compare apples to apples.

Will it translate to better play on the field? Who knows, but it does show he is getting better at what he needs to get better at. . .

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You can take almost nothing from this video too, because LSU most definitely edited it to only show the good throws for JJ.
Then explain the raw video that Sports2 posted, son.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 10:57 pm to
I thought JJ looked fitter and had a better ball.
I was a little alarmed at how flat footed he stood on the downfield throws. But I never coached Drew Bledsoe.

OBJ catches errything.
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 10:57 pm to
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ebow and Young are prime examples of forcing mechanics hurting them.
Wait. . .what?

Vince Young had his greatest season ever after he got his mechanics fixed.
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 10:58 pm to
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Sports2
Thanks man!
Posted by TIGRLEE
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 10:59 pm to
not really but keep telling yourself that.

look im not trying to piss on anyone's parade.. but for fricks sake, take the clip for what it was.
wait till at least fall scrimmage to say if the guy has imporved.
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 10:59 pm to
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Roaad

Any update on the sig?
Posted by Geaux2002
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 10:59 pm to
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But he looks better than last year, against no defense.

We call that improvement, where I come from. You compare apples to apples.

Will it translate to better play on the field? Who knows, but it does show he is getting better at what he needs to get better at. . .


Mechanics weren't JJ's major problems. He had poor mechanics, but that was the least of his issues. The mental part of the game, quick decision making and lack of leadership skills were his issues. I hope those are improved.


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Then explain the raw video that Sports2 posted, son.


Is it showing the entire practice? Every single snap? Is Cauble going to put out bad press for LSU and then expect to be allowed back in there?
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:00 pm to
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Any update on the sig?

season hasn't started yet.
Posted by Geaux2002
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:00 pm to
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Vince Young had his greatest season ever after he got his mechanics fixed.



Umm... no, he didn't. He had his greatest season ever after the coaches fit the offense to his skills there buddy. VY has and always will have horrible mechanics.
Posted by ulmtiger
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:00 pm to
The real test is to see JJs motion when under pressure and he has to look to secndary receiver. He has always thrown well with time to stare down the primary receiver.
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:02 pm to
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Mechanics weren't JJ's major problems.
Yes, it was. Too long a delivery gave defenses time to collapse on his intended WR.

Bad release points caused the ball to be under and overthrown.

Same with footwork.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:02 pm to
2002...you really just dont pay attention, at all.
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Tebow and Young are prime examples of forcing mechanics hurting them


WHUT>>>>>Tebow went from a marginal pick to a top pick and NFL starter when he got his tune up. Vince Young went from a good player to a great player after fixing his motion.

Posted by Geaux2002
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:03 pm to
By the way, his video is showing the underclassmen, not JJ.
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:04 pm to
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Umm... no, he didn't.
Umm. . .yes, he did.

He stated numerous times that he spent the entire offseason working on mechanics and arm strength.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:04 pm to
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Dont see Mett leading this team at QB anytime soon. He needs to hit the books and grow up.




gotta love the rant. Believe anything they read from some clueless rantard.


needs to grow up and hit the books? come on.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:04 pm to
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The real test is to see JJs motion when under pressure and he has to look to secndary receiver. He has always thrown well with time to stare down the primary receiver.


I dont see that at all. I see JJ as sucking equally on almost all throws. (and I think he should start BTW) Mainly because his footwork was bad and his mechanics were bad, overthrows are a pretty good sign of bad mechanics.
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:04 pm to
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By the way, his video is showing the underclassmen, not JJ.
Go back a few posts there, Einstein.
Posted by Geaux2002
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Posted on 8/4/11 at 11:05 pm to
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WHUT>>>>>Tebow went from a marginal pick to a top pick and NFL starter when he got his tune up. Vince Young went from a good player to a great player after fixing his motion.



Are we talking college or pro ball here, because last I checked what JJ does in the pros doesn't mean jack right now.

Both of those guys may have improved their mechanics slightly, but those weren't the reasons they blew up on offense. They blew up because the offenses were adjusted to their skills.

I can only hope the LSU offenses will actually take advantage of their players skills and talent.
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