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re: Posters calling out the pass play on 2nd &2.

Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:41 pm to
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
24576 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:41 pm to
As much as I love LSU, no way in hell I would feel comfortable as a prospect out of high school choosing LSU to play football under this CONTINUED coaching embarrassment. We win the number games each year based on talent and less on coaching.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:41 pm to
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Alabama game we bitched because we blew the last drive on defense. Now Miles blew the last drive on offense against Clemson. What fricking planet are you from?


Good god the ignorance. What planet have you been on boy? Miles has been blasted for not trying to THROW the ball to get a first down against Bama. Are you denying this?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:43 pm to
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No they didn't stuff us two times in a row just nearly every time on 3rd down.


Yep. Outside of Hill's 10 carries, we didn't do shite rushing. Ill never understand why Hill didn't get more carries in the 4th.
Posted by CrippleCreek
Member since Apr 2012
2345 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:43 pm to
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there is no denying that th pass on 2nd down was a great play call, because the wr was wide open.


part of what makes a playcall good is the effect of a bad result, and whether it is a strength of your players.

A bad result on a pass there is far far worse than a bad result on a run.

mett isnt very strong in the run, and played poorly last night.

Yes the play was open, hut it was still a horrible decision.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38377 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:44 pm to
That's because he ran a predictable QB sneak with a tailback from under center. Everyone on the planet knew what was coming when ware lined up under center. Kind of like putting in a guy with 10 snaps on the year at the goal line against Florida
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
24576 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:44 pm to
Of course he was blasted for not throwing as much but nearly as much for the last drive that took place. The only boy here is in your pants broke back.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24268 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:47 pm to
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But the second and two was a great play call.


I'm trying to move on (or am I?), but I don't see why a few are thinking it was a great play call. It would be great if you had a hot QB. Mett struggled all night, had a pick, six sacks and couldn't find his rhythm.

If they run, even if they don't get it they can burn Clemson's timeouts. Clemson stopped Hill on a play here and there, but never twice in a row.

Clemson got sacked early on that last drive. With no timeouts or just one left, that would have just about ended the game. As it happened, Clemson had to use two timeouts before they even got into field goal position.
Posted by Lmeye15
Denham Springs
Member since Sep 2012
75 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:50 pm to
I completely Agree. Unless we win every game and get a first down every play, he will never be able to make everyone happy.
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10482 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:59 pm to
For the people saying mett had struggled all night, pass protection was bad, etc. Why was the 1st down play a good call but the second down play a bad one?
Posted by los angeles tiger
1,601 miles from Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2003
55976 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 12:03 am to
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Yep. Outside of Hill's 10 carries, we didn't do shite rushing. Ill never understand why Hill didn't get more carries in the 4th.



How about because Hill didn't get any carries in the 4th.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 12:04 am to
1 total yard of offense in the 4th quarter

just when you didn't think it could get worse, miles shocks us all
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61782 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 12:04 am to
Because Running 3 plays to get 10 yards is harder than running 2 plays to get 2 yards.

We got 8 yards on first down. The hard part was over.
Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
8045 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 12:09 am to
And Ware got the next highest amount of carries.

2.

Your QB is struggling and is getting hammered and sacked in the pocket all night long. Hill is killing it and you have good strong RBs in addition that might do something. You need to kill clock. And you call a pass. And not an easy one as some might have you believe.

I will never understand it just like I will never understand a lot of what Les and Stud do.

And yet you will still find at least a small vocal group that will defend it. I have to think they are led by a misguided sense of patriotism. They feel to criticize or not have faith in the coaches is betraying LSU.
Posted by dljtigers
Sulphur, LA
Member since Feb 2012
1822 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 12:14 am to
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Really? Not one poster on this site takes anything you say seriously. You are void of football Knowledge.
The situations are similar. If you can't see that then you're a fricking idiot.
Both games LSU is leading and trying to get a first down to ice the game. Yeah they aren't similar at all.i hate our ignorant fan base.


Your the one coming off as ignorant. Because you can't see that these 2 situations are different its easy to see why you are happy with things just like they are. I think you are the lucky one--too ignorant to know better and that keeps you happy. Oh and guess what no one on this site takes anyone seriously.

We are all LSU fans. Its ok to discuss our failures and accomplishments. We can disagree but in the end all of us want whats best for the tigers.
Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
8045 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 12:20 am to
I actually would disagree with your last sentence.

I think some on here really want whats best for Les rather than whats best for LSU.

I'm not going to waste time trying to sift through crap to find a link but when Les got his raise during the Arkansas joke many Les pumpers and supposed LSU fans openly bragged about how Les trolled LSU and got more money out of LSU.
Posted by los angeles tiger
1,601 miles from Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2003
55976 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 12:25 am to
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1 total yard of offense in the 4th quarter

just when you didn't think it could get worse, miles shocks us all


Miles has an insane imagination and I wish I did as well. It gets you a $500,000 a year increase in pay.
Posted by los angeles tiger
1,601 miles from Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2003
55976 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 12:30 am to
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Your QB is struggling and is getting hammered and sacked in the pocket all night long. Hill is killing it and you have good strong RBs in addition that might do something. You need to kill clock. And you call a pass. And not an easy one as some might have you believe.

I will never understand it just like I will never understand a lot of what Les and Stud do.



Followed that debacle up by saying "We had to throw the ball." Clemson's coach said that run the ball he would have to call time-out, time-out. Les saved Clemson's timeouts.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76270 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 12:30 am to
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Message Posted by NorthshoreTiger76 you run the ball in that situation, if you can't get two yards in 2 downs you don't deserve to win

And I your QB can't make a completion that easy the you also don't deserve to win.

Had Hill fumbled after running for a first down people would blame Hill. But Mett makes a terrible play and we blame play calling.
Posted by dljtigers
Sulphur, LA
Member since Feb 2012
1822 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 12:35 am to
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I think some on here really want whats best for Les rather than whats best for LSU


I agree with you. I posted back during his extension/raise that at most I would have given him a small raise but no extension. My reason is how poorly we have done on offense and his game management skills.

I think some fans feel that if you talk negative in anyway about Les its bad for the university. I disagree. Let Les stand on the total merits of his performance---wins/losses, bowl performances, recruiting, assistant coaches, player development,
discipline the whole job. He is a good coach--not a great coach. We need a different offensive approach.

He has been good for the university but we are resting on the past. The Chavis hire saved Les.
A good O/C could help us all.
Posted by catch26
Rock Island, IL
Member since Nov 2011
459 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 12:43 am to
All of this is splitting hairs. Where is any creativity with our offense? Where is the flow? Why do we never use a play to set up something else later in the game? I thought we may be turning over a new leaf when we rane Ware in the 'wildcat'. We could have used that to set up so many other plays...case in point was the quick toss Ware did to Ford in the A&M game I believe for a big gain & crucial 1st down. Why not try a toss sweep to the outside & let it be a foot race to the marker?? I just honestly don't see any rhyme or reason to what we do on offense. If we are going to be a power run team, then go talk to Stanford's coaches & do what they do. If we're going to just sling the ball, then go see Oregon. Heck, go down the road & talk to Sean P. Point is PICK SOMETHING & STICK TO IT! We have zero identity & this really prevents us from expanding on our strengths.

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