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re: Posters calling out the pass play on 2nd &2.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:24 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:24 pm to RogerTheShrubber
The 2nd and 2 pass play was a great play call, I love that we did it, and 100%of tthe blame there is on the QB.
We ran the ball on 3rd & 2, got stuffed, 3rd & 1, got stuffed, so I dont know why people thought the outcome would be different when it was even more of an "obvious run situation". The pass was going to be wide open, the coaches knew it, and it worked perfectly, you just have to trust your D1 starting QB to make a pop Warner level throw. If he does, Clemson either has to take a timeout or let the clock run some. If your that concerned about making them waste a timeoit, then if its not there, Mett should have been told to run which the coaches probably did tell him. Great playcall, we just didn't execute
We ran the ball on 3rd & 2, got stuffed, 3rd & 1, got stuffed, so I dont know why people thought the outcome would be different when it was even more of an "obvious run situation". The pass was going to be wide open, the coaches knew it, and it worked perfectly, you just have to trust your D1 starting QB to make a pop Warner level throw. If he does, Clemson either has to take a timeout or let the clock run some. If your that concerned about making them waste a timeoit, then if its not there, Mett should have been told to run which the coaches probably did tell him. Great playcall, we just didn't execute
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Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:26 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Rickdaddy4188
Did it take the whole day for you to psyche yourself up, slap yourself in the face multiple times, and scream and yell obscenities in the mirror before you came on to defend Les & Stud yet again?
See you are going with your usual schtick of throwing our players under the bus.
Les earned every cent of his new raise.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:26 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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I hope you're joking. We had 99 yards rushing total. Take away the two long runs and we have hardly any rushing yards.
Mett had -41 in sacks...
The majority of Hill's runs were for 5+ yards. He still almost averaged 4 yards per run if you take out his longest three runs (and he only had 12 carries).
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:27 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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If les Miles had ran into a 10 man front twice an not gotten a first, you would be blasting him for that
Delusional.
Ford, Spencer and Hill. 2 shots at two yards to burn Clemson's time outs or burn clock.
How fricking retarded are you to not see what we should have done there?
I just can't see how you people think.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:30 pm to The Boat
quote:That's exactly what Clemson thought, hence the open receiver on the play action. I think that a run would had been the safest play, but there is no denying that the second down pass was perfectly set up. Just lacked the execution from the QB.
It was the perfect setup to running on 2nd and short for the 1st.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:30 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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If les Miles had ran into a 10 man front twice an not gotten a first, you would be blasting him for that.
I'm sure some people would but not me.
You have 3 goals, and you fashion yourself a power running team. Running guarantees that you accomplish 1 of your 3 goals at a minimum. Your best offensive weapon and performer in the game us a running back.
You run the ball twice to get 2 god damn yards. Worst case they get the ball with 130 on the clock and 1 timeout instead if the 3 they had.
The situation lined up with the strength of the team, and miles went the other way anyway.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:31 pm to dgnx6
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Miles specifically said they had to pass it when they were facing a 10 man front. Yet the rantards want us to run, what a fricking joke.
They didn't "have" to do anything. He passed and lost. Miles is trying not to make himself look foolish, but the overwhelming majority aren't buying it. Jeremy Hill against a 50-man front was better than Mett against their D last night. Look at the stats.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:31 pm to GeauxPack81
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The 2nd and 2 pass play was a great play call, I love that we did it, and 100%of tthe blame there is on the QB. We ran the ball on 3rd & 2, got stuffed, 3rd & 1, got stuffed, so I dont know why people thought the outcome would be different when it was even more of an "obvious run situation". The pass was going to be wide open, the coaches knew it, and it worked perfectly, you just have to trust your D1 starting QB to make a pop Warner level throw. If he does, Clemson either has to take a timeout or let the clock run some. If your that concerned about making them waste a timeoit, then if its not there, Mett should have been told to run which the coaches probably did tell him. Great playcall, we just didn't execute
This. Anyone with actual football knowledge can see this. Just like Bill Belichick calling for a pass on 4th &1. Offense just didn't execute.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:31 pm to GeauxPack81
Seriously how does Mett not make that throw-half of the rantards could make that throw with their eyes closed. We should've ran on one of the three downs though.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:31 pm to GeauxPack81
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I dont know why people thought the outcome would be different when it was even more of an "obvious run situation".
It is good strategy to kill clock and/or at least force the other team to use timeouts. We did neither because of dumbass play calling.
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you just have to trust your D1 starting QB to make a pop Warner level throw.
You are really dumb. That was a very difficult throw to make on any level, including the NFL. That is an NFL throw. QB has to throw on the run and across the field. It is a long throw. Also, keep in mind that your QB had never gotten into a rhythm all night. Mett was constantly under pressure, having been sacked 6 times and knocked down numerous more times.
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If he does, Clemson either has to take a timeout or let the clock run some.
They would have to do this if we gave the ball to one of our very talented RBs...including one who had run for 125 yards in the game on only 12 carries.
Solid attempt as usual by you Les pumping fools.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:35 pm to GABlueDog
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Did it take the whole day for you to psyche yourself up, slap yourself in the face multiple times, and scream and yell obscenities in the mirror before you came on to defend Les & Stud yet again? See you are going with your usual schtick of throwing our players under the bus.
I'm not throwing any player under the bus. Mett didnt execute an easy pass play. Not am I defending Stud or Miles. Stud needs to go. I have never thrown any player under the bus. Hell I was called a JJ lover because I thought he played decent at times. Find one post of mine saying any LSU player sucks.
Just one. You can't, because you're running your dick sucker about things you don't know about. Period. Stud needs to be demoted or let go
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:35 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Alabama game we bitched because we blew the last drive on defense. Now Miles blew the last drive on offense against Clemson. What fricking planet are you from?
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:35 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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This. Anyone with actual football knowledge can see this. Just like Bill Belichick calling for a pass on 4th &1. Offense just didn't execute.
Even great coaches make dumb calls sometimes. LSU could have run the ball two times to get the two yards. Clemson didn't totally stuff us two times in a row during the game.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:36 pm to Scoop
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How fricking retarded are you to not see what we should have done there?
Oh just like Miles did against Bama, right?
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:38 pm to Big EZ Tiger
No they didn't stuff us two times in a row just nearly every time on 3rd down.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:38 pm to CrippleCreek
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You run the ball twice to get 2 god damn yards. Worst case they get the ball with 130 on the clock and 1 timeout instead if the 3 they had. The situation lined up with the strength of the team, and miles went the other way anyway.
I would have run behind Copeland two times if I were the coach, but there is no denying that th pass on 2nd down was a great play call, because the wr was wide open.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:39 pm to GABlueDog
quote:No, it was because of piss-poor execution. Les did plenty of things wrong last night and deserves plenty of the blame for this loss. But the second and two was a great play call. Trying to blame Les for that one just proves that he can never do right in some of your eyes.
We did neither because of dumbass play calling.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:39 pm to GABlueDog
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You are really dumb. That was a very difficult throw to make on any level, including the NFL. That is an NFL throw. QB has to throw on the run and across the field. It is a long throw. Also, keep in mind that your QB had never gotten into a rhythm all night. Mett was constantly under pressure, having been sacked 6 times and knocked down numerous more times.
Oh my gosh, come on, he is going to his right, the throw was not far at all, and there was not enough pressure on him to change his motion or anything. If thats an NFL throw, my High school QB should be playing on Sundays..
Talented RBs are great and all, but not gonna do shite vs. 10 guys waiting on the run. Just doesnt work, hasn't worked all year, why would it now?
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:40 pm to BhamBengal
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Seriously how does Mett not make that throw-half of the rantards could make that throw with their eyes closed. We should've ran on one of the three downs though.
This is how I would lean. I would've ran it twice, but I can't hate miles for the pass on 2nd down because it was the perfect time o call the play. Just like against UWV last year on 3rd &1. The other team had no idea it was coming.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:40 pm to Rickdaddy4188
The play call and feeling towards it is a lot like the Alabama fan base after the A&M game.
I think if miles calls 2 run plays, and both are stuffed, no one is mad about the call. Thats a case of "they manned up and stopped us." A run is the right call in that situation every time, not a chance at a drop/stopped clock.
The pass on 1st down was brilliant. The calls on 2nd and 3rd were mind boggling.
You've made your bed though Rick, I expected you to lie in it
I think if miles calls 2 run plays, and both are stuffed, no one is mad about the call. Thats a case of "they manned up and stopped us." A run is the right call in that situation every time, not a chance at a drop/stopped clock.
The pass on 1st down was brilliant. The calls on 2nd and 3rd were mind boggling.
You've made your bed though Rick, I expected you to lie in it
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