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Posted on 6/18/10 at 10:39 am to wilfont
Their are many great basketball players through the years ( such as M Jordan...) but Pete Maravich is in a league all his own. His has no equal and no one is even close. IMO you would have to have actually seen him play to appreciate the truth of this.
Posted on 6/18/10 at 10:45 am to Mighty Cajun
1. It's spooky how much Pete and Mahtook look alike to me.
2. I met Dr James Dobson at a convention in CA years back. Little did I know at the time, Pete passed away in his arms during a pick-up game when they were doing a speaking engagement together. Come to find out, Pete gave his life to Christ shortly before that fateful day and was serving the Lord when he passed away.
To me, his character surpassed his athletic accomplishments... and that's a mouthful.
RIP Pete - you were and will forever be, the best that ever played the game IMO.
I was lucky enough to see him play for the Jazz in New Orleans. The most vivid memory I have is him boucing a behind the back pass off of somebody's head that wasn't ready for it. He was a wizard with the ball in his hand.. and not just when he was shooting (which he liked to do).
2. I met Dr James Dobson at a convention in CA years back. Little did I know at the time, Pete passed away in his arms during a pick-up game when they were doing a speaking engagement together. Come to find out, Pete gave his life to Christ shortly before that fateful day and was serving the Lord when he passed away.
To me, his character surpassed his athletic accomplishments... and that's a mouthful.
RIP Pete - you were and will forever be, the best that ever played the game IMO.
I was lucky enough to see him play for the Jazz in New Orleans. The most vivid memory I have is him boucing a behind the back pass off of somebody's head that wasn't ready for it. He was a wizard with the ball in his hand.. and not just when he was shooting (which he liked to do).
Posted on 6/18/10 at 10:46 am to Rouge
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undoubted the greatest scorer, but i cant call him the greatest player simply because he did not make those around him any better.
Rouge, you're an all around massive doucher in every way. Please get out of this thread. Thanks and have a great day.
This post was edited on 6/18/10 at 10:48 am
Posted on 6/18/10 at 10:49 am to Mighty Cajun
because i dont completely agree with you?
grow up
grow up
Posted on 6/18/10 at 10:50 am to Rouge
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undoubted the greatest scorer, but i cant call him the greatest player simply because he did not make those around him any better.
That's sort of hard to prove, isn't it? I mean, who's to say the guys he had around him at LSU weren't just terrible scrubs.
Posted on 6/18/10 at 10:55 am to Mighty Cajun
I went to grade school and junior high school with Pete in Clemson, SC. We were in the same grade, and I even played on the same Jr. High basketball team with him. He was incredibly thin and lanky then, even at age 12 and 13, but already an extraordinary talent. Our practices were at the YMCA on the Clemson campus, and on Saturday mornings after practice Pete would hang around and bet quarters with the college guys on his ability to hit set shots from halfway between the top of the key and midcourt.
Posted on 6/18/10 at 10:56 am to Rouge
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undoubted the greatest scorer, but i cant call him the greatest player simply because he did not make those around him any better.
Look up his assist stats (apart from the artistry he brought to dishing out the assists).
Posted on 6/18/10 at 10:56 am to b rod lsu
quote:basketball is a team sport, and team accomplishments obviously mean a lot. the LSU teams during the Maravich era did very little in the terms of post-season achievement. could we have won more games is Pete passed instead of shot? i dont know, and that will be good conversation for years to come. another question is why were those teams so unspectacular? was it because Press wanted to advertise his son? i really dont know.
That's sort of hard to prove, isn't it? I mean, who's to say the guys he had around him at LSU weren't just terrible scrubs.
Posted on 6/18/10 at 11:02 am to Rouge
The players around him were mediocre at best. LSU wasn't a basketball school to any extent in those days. I was at LSU from '65-'69. Pete's first year, the freshman games drew bigger crowds than the varsity.
He was one of the great passers the college game has ever seen. He shot more than he otherwise might have because the odds of scoring were better that way than with anybody else shooting most of the time.
He was one of the great passers the college game has ever seen. He shot more than he otherwise might have because the odds of scoring were better that way than with anybody else shooting most of the time.
Posted on 6/18/10 at 11:13 am to Rouge
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basketball is a team sport, and team accomplishments obviously mean a lot. the LSU teams during the Maravich era did very little in the terms of post-season achievement. could we have won more games is Pete passed instead of shot? i dont know, and that will be good conversation for years to come. another question is why were those teams so unspectacular? was it because Press wanted to advertise his son? i really dont know.
Why did you selectively choose post-season success? In the 10 years prior to Maravich playing varsity ball, LSU averaged 9 wins per season (with the 2 seasons directly prior being absolutely dreadful). In his 3 seasons at LSU,
1967-68: 14-12
1968-69: 13-13
1969-70: 22-10
And his senior season was also a NIT Final 4 season. Doesn't sound like much, but taking into consideration the fact that LSU hadn't had a post-season birth in about 15 years it's nothing to sneeze at.
Also, his assist numbers were 4.03 apg (soph), 4.92 apg (jr), and 6.19 apg (sr) respectively. That's not directed at you, Rouge, but rather the dude who brought it up a few posts up.
This post was edited on 6/18/10 at 11:16 am
Posted on 6/18/10 at 11:14 am to Rouge
Rouge, your general pont of view towards everything i've ever seen is constantly negative and your'e a dumbass. Maravich, is the greatest of all time. Fact. Perod.
This post was edited on 6/18/10 at 11:16 am
Posted on 6/18/10 at 11:15 am to ccomeaux
Thank you ccomeaux! I enjoyed it.
Posted on 6/18/10 at 11:17 am to Mighty Cajun
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Thank you ccomeaux! I enjoyed it.
Do you see the resemblance between your photo and Mahtook ?
Posted on 6/18/10 at 11:20 am to TigerTatorTots
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According to Wikipedia, former basketball head coach of LSU, Dale Brown, noted every shot that Pete Maravich took in college basketball and calculated that Pete would have made an average of 13 three-point shots per game. If he played under current regulations with the three-point arc set at 5.8 metres (19-foot 9 inches) from the rim, he would have averaged 57 points per game.
Exactly, then you add the factor of IF there was a 3pt line, he would have taken more 3 pt shots obviously. Hence the number of 60s and 70s that were predicted
Um, NO.
He averaged 44 points a game. Dale Brown calculated he averaged 13 3 point shots per game. A 3 point shot is one more point than a 2 point shot. SIGH.
44 + 13 = 57.
SIGH again.
Posted on 6/18/10 at 11:25 am to cajunsax62
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He averaged 44 points a game. Dale Brown calculated he averaged 13 3 point shots per game. A 3 point shot is one more point than a 2 point shot. SIGH.
The poster was stating that if there had been a 3 point line, Pete would have taken more 3 point shots than he actually did (as measured by Dale Brown). I'm not sure if this would have happened, but it's quite possible he would have.
Posted on 6/18/10 at 11:26 am to Mighty Cajun
I'd also like to add that back then only 1 team from the conference went to the NCAA Tourney and the NIT was a highly desirable tournament. Some teams even skipped the NCAA for the NIT.
Rouge's logic makes no sense.
Rouge's logic makes no sense.
Posted on 6/18/10 at 11:28 am to Tigergreg
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The poster was stating that if there had been a 3 point line, Pete would have taken more 3 point shots than he actually did (as measured by Dale Brown). I'm not sure if this would have happened, but it's quite possible he would have.
Exactly, I said IF...Another factor I didn't mention earlier but has since been posted is that fact that there was no shot clock. With a shot clock, he would have had to oppurtunity to have more possesions.
Posted on 6/18/10 at 11:30 am to The Cable Guy
Thanks Cable Guy glad someone agrees.
Ccmeaux, yeah i definately see the resemblence it looks like the same person almost.
Ccmeaux, yeah i definately see the resemblence it looks like the same person almost.
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