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re: One thing sure has become abundantly clear....

Posted on 10/4/16 at 2:40 pm to
Posted by WiscyTiger
Bear Lake, WI
Member since Nov 2008
1418 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 2:40 pm to
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Gray Tiger


quote:

They're still here...arguing against reality.
Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 2:44 pm to
CNN has just blamed global warming and world hunger on Les.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
43402 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 2:47 pm to
After Jarrett Lee, Les lost all confidence in any QB. The problem with that is you lost confidence in the whole offense and fan base.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158819 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 2:48 pm to
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CNN has just blamed global warming and world hunger on Les.


HAAAAAAAAAA
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79287 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 2:48 pm to
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CNN has just blamed global warming and world hunger on Les.
considering that this program was offensively starved, i agree.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20462 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 2:56 pm to
As do I. It's the 1 out of 4 that I mentioned that doesn't have micromanagement. They've even gone so far as to promote personal leadership from within, even at the grunt level. That has its own flaws, but I can say that the current company I work for is way more productive than some slap dick "it's my company, you do what I tell you to do" approach.
Posted by MichaelP DS80
Member since May 2016
85 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 3:09 pm to
Gus Malzahn - "I fear we have awakened a sleeping giant tiger and filled him with a terrible resolve."



History rewritten

Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 3:16 pm to
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After Jarrett Lee, Les lost all confidence in any QB.


Unfortunately, he didn't lose confidence in Jefferson.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 3:37 pm to
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this can go the other way as well FWIW



Stand up guy to the end.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85388 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 3:38 pm to
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If the next coach wins 2 SEC titles and 1 2-loss national title in the next 12 seasons he will deserve a statue, I guess.


Some kind of way I've been mistaken as a "pumper" when I've been on the Les needs to go bandwagon for quite a while. I've warned that the history of replacing coaches with his success is not good, but it doesn't change the fact that it needs to happen.

Anyway, to your point stated above - regardless of how it happens, would you consider 2 SEC championships and 1 national title in the next 12 years a success? I'm not trolling or anything, I'm genuinely curious.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83653 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 3:39 pm to
I have no idea what that means Red
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 3:41 pm to
People should comprehend that it's not a mutually-exclusive (black and white) distinction. It's not:
EITHER
Les is good, hence great coach
OR
Les is evil, hence crappy coach.

You can believe that Les was a good guy and still accept that he wasn't a great coach and suffered from some classic leadership flaws (stubbornness, tactical/game management deficiencies, player development).

I don't blame the pumpers too much - you have to admit that it was very uncanny even bizarre how the yearly performance was always just good enough to buy him more time and spawn some supporting statistics even while the brass ring was repeatedly out of reach. It was easy to blame the refs (because there was some flagrant shite), the SEC, Perrileux, and whatever else while Miles just kicked the can along. BUT hopefully all can agree that there had been some dysfunctional shite that had taken root and it was time to move on for everyone's sake. I can't imagine Les was happy with the performance either but couldn't figure out how to change bc he blamed everything else.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 3:42 pm to
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I have no idea what that means Red



Backhanded jab at your unwavering support of miles....its all in good fun Sal.
Posted by armydude
Member since Aug 2014
792 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 3:43 pm to
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Was Les holding Aranda back as well? The reason I ask is that our defense played like monsters against a pretty potent offense this past Saturday. Against lesser offenses in the first four weeks, we had struggles and didn't seem to be taking the fight to our opponents.


I personally think it was because the Offense controlled the clock which gave the defense the rest it needed.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83653 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 3:44 pm to
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Backhanded jab at your unwavering support of miles


it wasn't so much a comment in support of Miles, just a comment on how I would expect consistency from the negas

even though I know they won't be
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46645 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 3:44 pm to
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Les is a miserable head coach


God we have the most football ignorant fans in cfb. Miserable coaches dont have the success Miles had while playing in the hardest division in cfb.
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 3:45 pm
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 3:47 pm to
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God we have the most football ignorant fans in cfb. Miserable coaches dont have the success Miles had while playing in the hardest division in cfb.



Well technically, CEO is batting .1000 right now so his winning % is higher than Les's...jus saying!
Posted by Taurus
Loozianna
Member since Feb 2015
4955 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 3:52 pm to
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You can believe that Les was a good guy and still accept that he wasn't a great coach and suffered from some classic leadership flaws (stubbornness, tactical/game management deficiencies, player development).


Just as one can believe Miles was not as great a guy as perceived and a shitstain coach.

Frankly, I thought he was an arrogant arse while at Okie St. I couldn't stand his overly brash way when not really winning jack shite except beating Stoops twice in a row.

Top that off with how he handled Lee/Jefferson, quitting on 1/9, leveraging the Arky job for more money, then saying yearly he would change the offense, make it better. Only willing to pretty much give LSU admins, coaches, players, and fans a big fat finger. Yeah, he is such a swell guy.
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
41550 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 3:56 pm to
It was great, for once I did not have too sweat the ending of the game in the 4th like we've have done in the past against lesser competition.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 4:07 pm to
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Anyway, to your point stated above - regardless of how it happens, would you consider 2 SEC championships and 1 national title in the next 12 years a success? I'm not trolling or anything, I'm genuinely curious.

"Success" is a relative term.

As for championships, the coach can only control some of the factors that go into that.
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