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One thing sure has become abundantly clear....

Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:24 pm
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158711 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:24 pm
Les seemed to completely ignore his offensive staff outside of Cam. It seems all of our position coaches are delighted to be given the green light to manage their position.

add Grimes to the list....
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You'll remember that Miles had a heavy hand in #LSU's OL. It's now Grimes' to manage.

Media could see changes in 1-hour viewing window at 5


come on Pocic to tackle

Posted by Taurus
Loozianna
Member since Feb 2015
4955 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

Les seemed to completely ignore his offensive staff outside of Cam


"Seemed" my arse. The quitter did ignore their input.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58478 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:29 pm to
I have to say, I was blaming Grimes for a lot of the OL's problems, but based on Saturday's performance (and admittedly, it's only one game), I may have been too quick to do so.
Posted by Joe Mantegna
knoxville
Member since Oct 2007
9294 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:29 pm to
Pocic and possibly Chidi at the tackle positions.
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
107160 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:29 pm to
Les is a miserable head coach. I'm so glad his luck ran out so that he could be fired.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:30 pm to
No doubt he did. Les loved to call plays and I have a feeling he asked his def co's to play a passive bend but don't break defense.
Posted by SwampKitty
Brusly, LA
Member since Sep 2015
1143 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

Les seemed to completely ignore his offensive staff outside of Cam.


Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26604 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:33 pm to
Was Les holding Aranda back as well?

The reason I ask is that our defense played like monsters against a pretty potent offense this past Saturday.

Against lesser offenses in the first four weeks, we had struggles and didn't seem to be taking the fight to our opponents.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79078 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:33 pm to
the shite that comes out afterwards...goddamnit les
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:33 pm to
Damned near every quote from players and coaches has basically said "Miles sucked" without literally saying it.

Couple that with their ACTIONS and it's clear that there was precisely ONE thing hindering LSU football
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79078 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:34 pm to
it's like LSU has been liberated, bro.

this must be how france felt.
Posted by tiogatiger19
tioga, la
Member since Aug 2005
1513 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

No doubt he did. Les loved to call plays and I have a feeling he asked his def co's to play a passive bend but don't break defense.




I have no doubt he had his hand on some of the defense. They just don't improve that much with Les gone unless he did.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158711 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:34 pm to
well when you aren't on the field for damn near the entire game, you're surprisingly more effective
Posted by Commando
Never Never Land
Member since Jan 2009
2810 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:34 pm to
And BeeFense and Choctaw consistently told us it was the fans' fault we were performing poorly.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:35 pm to
Okeke
Teuhuma (however it's spelled)
Dodd
Boutte
Pocic

Hey. A fella can dream, no?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

No doubt he did. Les loved to call plays and I have a feeling he asked his def co's to play a passive bend but don't break defense.

Yep.

His absurd and irrational aversion to risk permeated everything.

Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

Was Les holding Aranda back as well?

The reason I ask is that our defense played like monsters against a pretty potent offense this past Saturday.

Against lesser offenses in the first four weeks, we had struggles and didn't seem to be taking the fight to our opponents.

Personally I think he did, but at this point it's hard to say because the players were extremely motivated against Mizzou.
Posted by nicholastiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
42047 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:35 pm to
After last season's fiasco, I think Miles just said you know what, I'm keeping Cam and we're doing this my way. Stubborness got Dinardo fired and the same thing happened to Miles. It's why Saban is still at the top of his game. He is not an offensive guru but he brings in coordinators that work within his system and he lets them coach and he is not afraid to give them an earful when he has to.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32376 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:35 pm to
In a few years Miles will be scorned by all LSU fans. The amount of talent squandered is just insane.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20345 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

Les seemed to completely ignore his offensive staff outside of Cam. It seems all of our position coaches are delighted to be given the green light to manage their position.



quote:

After last season's fiasco, I think Miles just said you know what, I'm keeping Cam and we're doing this my way. Stubborness got Dinardo fired and the same thing happened to Miles. It's why Saban is still at the top of his game. He is not an offensive guru but he brings in coordinators that work within his system and he lets them coach and he is not afraid to give them an earful when he has to.


It seems he and Cam just said: "change things? frick that"
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 12:37 pm
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