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re: Note to Out of State Alums
Posted on 8/27/10 at 3:11 pm to seinfeldtiger
Posted on 8/27/10 at 3:11 pm to seinfeldtiger
When I graduated high school in 2004, the standards to get into LSU were higher than the standards to receive TOPS. Basically, everyone from LA who got into LSU received TOPS. It's not hard to get.
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Posted on 8/27/10 at 3:14 pm to OFWHAP
Does it cover 100 percent of tuition and books?
Posted on 8/27/10 at 3:16 pm to seinfeldtiger
There are several tiers. The bottom tier just covered tuition I believe. Higher tiers did tuition plus a stipend every semester. I was the highest tier and received an $800 stipend on top of tuition. The only things not covered were books and fraternity dues for the most part. I don't remember particulars.
This post was edited on 8/27/10 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 8/27/10 at 3:55 pm to OFWHAP
As a Tiger Alum living in Memphis with a college age daughter this really sucks. Even with the Bengal Legacy award it was cheaper for my daughter to attend UT knox, MS State, or Memphis. LSU is a rip off for dorms, food, and other fees. My daughter choose to attend MS State because they offered more. My other daughter was hoping to attend LSU, but with all of the increase in costs it will be a long shot. More schools seem to be waving out of state fees, so this is really an odd move by LSU. Miss, Alabama, Arky all wave tuition for TN residents with out much trouble. So why is LSU making it more difficult? The fact is LSU is not cheap to attend, and it is getting worse.
Posted on 8/27/10 at 3:56 pm to OFWHAP
this really is bullshite.
In-state students basically go to LSU for free because of TOPS.
Being a legacy takes away 3/4 of the difference b/w out-of-state and in-state tuition. It's still substantially higher than what an in-state TOPS student pays.
Sure, these kids parents don't pay taxes in LA, but as any LSU grad knows, especially one that sends their kid to LSU, the state of Louisiana is in their blood and a place they cherish. And let's be honest, most of these alums are out-of-state because they worked their way up to a good job, which typically will lead you away from LA.
These are probably some of the most successful LSU grads who are making the university and state look great elsewhere in the country. I'd much rather a kid from one of these families receive money than some dumbshit who barely gets into LSU but has TOPS cover most or all of his tuition.
In-state students basically go to LSU for free because of TOPS.
Being a legacy takes away 3/4 of the difference b/w out-of-state and in-state tuition. It's still substantially higher than what an in-state TOPS student pays.
Sure, these kids parents don't pay taxes in LA, but as any LSU grad knows, especially one that sends their kid to LSU, the state of Louisiana is in their blood and a place they cherish. And let's be honest, most of these alums are out-of-state because they worked their way up to a good job, which typically will lead you away from LA.
These are probably some of the most successful LSU grads who are making the university and state look great elsewhere in the country. I'd much rather a kid from one of these families receive money than some dumbshit who barely gets into LSU but has TOPS cover most or all of his tuition.
Posted on 8/27/10 at 4:01 pm to bayoubreeze
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The fact is LSU is not cheap to attend, and it is getting worse.
woaahhh there. LSU is relatively cheap. It is getting more expensive, but it's still behind other comparable schools.
You might just be in a unique situation living in TN. Memphis and Nasvhille kids feed into Ole Miss and other SEC schools. As a border state, I think the out-of-state fee might be waived. You can't expect the same for a TN kid going to LSU.
Posted on 8/27/10 at 4:01 pm to Tigerbait46
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Being a legacy takes away 3/4 of the difference b/w out-of-state and in-state tuition
And takes away the leeches sucking LSU dry.
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Sure, these kids parents don't pay taxes in LA, but as any LSU grad knows, especially one that sends their kid to LSU, the state of Louisiana is in their blood and a place they cherish.
And if those same parents give to TAF and not a dime to organizations that are more committed to supporting education, then they not fully supporting LSU.
Posted on 8/27/10 at 4:06 pm to c on z
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And if those same parents give to TAF and not a dime to organizations that are more committed to supporting education, then they not fully supporting LSU.
I agree, but I would like to think that out-of-state grads who are having success in their careers are giving back to the university that helped get them there.
Posted on 8/27/10 at 4:12 pm to LSUMafia
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Wow, your lack of understanding how colleges work is amazing.
Right backatcha fricktard. I see from your posts that you are a fricking infant who only wants to argue--unless you currently serve on the governing board of a university, you should just shut the frick up and let the adults have a civil conversation. You have absolutely zero credibility when your only argument is "whaaaaaah, you people left the state and left the rest of us here!" Did it ever occur to you that perhaps some of us are contributing alumni who have given more to the university since we graduated than you will ever make in your lifetime?
Posted on 8/27/10 at 4:13 pm to AFTiger
Posted on 8/27/10 at 4:17 pm to c on z
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And takes away the leeches sucking LSU dry
If you just get your OOS waived, you are still paying a good bit more than a LA student who most likely qualifies for some level of tops.
Posted on 8/27/10 at 4:28 pm to AFTiger
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You have absolutely zero credibility when your only argument is "whaaaaaah, you people left the state and left the rest of us here!" Did it ever occur to you that perhaps some of us are contributing alumni who have given more to the university since we graduated than you will ever make in your lifetime?
this whole issue really is getting my blood boilin
Both of my parents grew up in LA and graduated from LSU. My dad's career lead him all around the country and he's done damn well for our family. He gives back a lot of money to the university and even has written in his will that a high % will go to LSU. My family's love for LA and LSU was passed on to me and I'm currently in my last year at LSU. I benefit from the Legacy scholarship and know others who do as well, and nearly all of their parents left LA to pursue a successful career. These are the alums making things happen across the country and want to pass on their LSU tradition to their kids. I just can't understand the logic behind cutting the Legacy scholarship.
Posted on 8/27/10 at 4:36 pm to OFWHAP
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I was the highest tier and received an $800 stipend on top of tuition.
So in effect, you were paid to go to LSU (good for you!). So the real question should be, how much is the TOPs program costing the state of Louisiana? It's no wonder that they want all out-of-staters to pay the full tuition ... they need the revenue to support TOPs.
Posted on 8/27/10 at 4:37 pm to Tigerbait46
Thanks Tigerbait46. It's funny, very few people are saying that this is definitively a bad move, and some of us are simply arguing that the potential exists for this to be a detriment to the future of LSU. I think most of us want what's best for the university, period, but there are some here who seem to have a lot of pent up anger at those of us who had to leave the state for work reasons.
What I REALLY want for my home state and my alma mater is for LSU to be an aspirational academic university, not a backup for kids who can't get in anywhere else. The potential is there, and I'm willing to support anything that takes us in that direction.
What I REALLY want for my home state and my alma mater is for LSU to be an aspirational academic university, not a backup for kids who can't get in anywhere else. The potential is there, and I'm willing to support anything that takes us in that direction.
Posted on 8/27/10 at 4:47 pm to 1984Tiger
You're not completely correct. The $800 went to cover all the fees. When I had to pay my fee bill, my balance would either read zero or the money I owed for fraternity dues. I didn't receive a check from LSU or anything.
Posted on 8/27/10 at 4:49 pm to seinfeldtiger
If the goal is to lift the entrance scores, requirements and standing of the university, it will probably happen. It will also probably reduce the number of students from Louisiana getting into LSU. Please explain where this benefits the tax payers of Louisiana. I would think the majority of these tax payers subsidize higher education at LSU, but many of their kids will never qualify to enter. I don't know where you reach a happy median, but the less inclusive you become the less support for funding by tax payers.
Maybe LSU is losing funding because it is losing focus of it who serves.
Maybe LSU is losing funding because it is losing focus of it who serves.
Posted on 8/27/10 at 4:52 pm to AFTiger
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What I REALLY want for my home state and my alma mater is for LSU to be an aspirational academic university, not a backup for kids who can't get in anywhere else. The potential is there, and I'm willing to support anything that takes us in that direction.
Absolutely, and I really think it's heading in that direction. I hate all of this bad press about budget cuts and the rather unimpressive perception of LSU's quality of education that is shared by many on this board. All it does is hurt LSU for uninformed people to deem LSU as a bad school heading down the shitter. I'm not denying the negative effect on these cuts, but I can tell you that the campus looks as good as ever and my "quality of education" seems perfectly fine.
The business college has been great for me, and in one year, they will have a new, state-of-the art facility. It also houses an incredible IA program that places students in top jobs across the country. My engineering friends seem to have numerous opportunities and resources available to them as well.
LSU is a good school with so much potential. I really believe it's headed in the right direction, and I would be so proud to be sending my son or daughter here 30 years from now, especially if it takes the next step to being an upper tier state school.
Posted on 8/27/10 at 4:59 pm to randyb
Alienating its own citizens wouldn't be an issue exclusive to LSU. When my cousins were graduating high school in Atlanta, UGA wanted nothing to do with kids from Georgia. They wanted out-of-state kids. Students from schools such as Westminster in Atlanta were being turned down. It was easier to get into Georgia Tech than UGA as a student from te state of Georgia. On the other hand, kids from Louisiana were going to UGA in droves.
Posted on 8/27/10 at 5:01 pm to randyb
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If the goal is to lift the entrance scores, requirements and standing of the university, it will probably happen. It will also probably reduce the number of students from Louisiana getting into LSU. Please explain where this benefits the tax payers of Louisiana. I would think the majority of these tax payers subsidize higher education at LSU, but many of their kids will never qualify to enter. I don't know where you reach a happy median, but the less inclusive you become the less support for funding by tax payers.
Maybe LSU is losing funding because it is losing focus of it who serves.
Thats a good point. I think a question that needs to be asked is, should LSU be the university for ALL La students, or the university for the best and brightest in the state. You have to wonder, how many kids put in less effort in HS because they know they've done "well enough" to get into LSU, when if the entrance standards were higher they might try harder. That SEEMS to be the case in places where there are large flagship state universities with high entrance standards (Michigan, UT, UCLA, etc). Fact is, it's not THAT hard to make the grade at any of those universities, if you apply yourself. I don't buy into the idea that kids in La are less talented or less capable than their counterparts elsewhere, but i worry that less is being asked of them.
Not sure what the answer is, but I think it's definitely worth asking the question.
Posted on 8/27/10 at 5:18 pm to AFTiger
The quality of education is much better in other states. Michigan isn't your average state school either. It's about $34,000 per year to attend Michigan, can't remember if that's out-of-state cost or not.
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