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re: National Championship Outlook if LSU goes undefeated.the rest of the way
Posted on 10/8/13 at 10:09 am to guttata
Posted on 10/8/13 at 10:09 am to guttata
quote:Going undefeated will be tough but it's clearly realistic.
LSU isn't going to finish the season with only one loss anyhow, so you stop with the unrealistic expectations. Just enjoy the season for what it is.
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Posted on 10/8/13 at 10:10 am to Datbayoubengal
If we win out and don't get in it will be a travesty and a fitting end to the all the BCS bullshite...
Posted on 10/8/13 at 10:15 am to lsutigertalk
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Ohio State and Louisville are locks
Not so fast my friend
Posted on 10/8/13 at 10:18 am to Datbayoubengal
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National Championship Outlook if LSU goes undefeated.the rest of the way Posted by Datbayoubengal on 10/8 at 8:37 am There are only a few possible teams that would get in with undefeated records Oregon Stanford Ohio State Clemson Florida State Oklahoma UCLA Baylor Louisville Outside of any pairing involving Ohio State and Louisville who will get penalized for their SOS, do we get with any two of these teams still undefeated by season's end? Reply • Options • Back to Top
The undefeated champion of the ACC or PAC 12 is a sure bet for getting in before LSU.
One huge thing LSU needs is for UGA to win out, and be the east champ so that they could avenge their earlier loss "on a neutral field" (which it technically is)
If only one of those two teams are undefeated (pac 12 acc) LSU "should" get in over Louisville and Ohio state Michigan without a doubt based on strength of schedule with wins over three top ten teams.
Id say the big 12 champ is not as open and shut, but still think LSU should go.
one thing that really needs to happen....and it needs to start after Beating Bama and A&M....is reminding everyone about 2011 where alabama was chosen as the "best team". We will clearly be if we beat UF, Bama, tamu and UGA.
Posted on 10/8/13 at 10:36 am to lsusa
Storm is brewing for a split title IMO. I can easily see a 1-loss SEC champ getting in over an undefeated Stanford/Louisville/Oregon or vice versa and creating a possible split.
Posted on 10/8/13 at 11:08 am to Datbayoubengal
Yeah I know only 1-3 of these teams will be undefeated because they play each other. I was just giving all the possible undefeated teams who would be a lock.
Also I didn't put Bama because in this scenario, they wouldn't be undefeated. I think either the PAC cannibalizes itself or one team get's out, but that is a major if. Also if FSU wins out and VT plays better on offense, they could upset them also. I am rooting for them to win all their games til Florida and hopefully Florida has a legit offense by then.
Also I didn't put Bama because in this scenario, they wouldn't be undefeated. I think either the PAC cannibalizes itself or one team get's out, but that is a major if. Also if FSU wins out and VT plays better on offense, they could upset them also. I am rooting for them to win all their games til Florida and hopefully Florida has a legit offense by then.
Posted on 10/8/13 at 11:20 am to Datbayoubengal
I would just worry about trying to make it to the SEC title game and winning it. A NC is looking out of reach right now.
Posted on 10/8/13 at 11:38 am to UGATiger26
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It's really pretty simple...
If LSU wins out, they are first in line of the 1-loss teams.
If there are at least 2 undefeated teams out of the Pac-12, Big-10, Big-12, or ACC, than LSU is SOL. Won't matter how many ranked teams they beat. Unfortunately, that's just the way it works.
The only interesting scenario I can fathom is there being one undefeated team out of the Pac-12, Big-10, Big-12, ACC and an undefeated Louisville
Well, fortunately this is bullshite. LSU would have beaten no.1 Bama on the road and avenged our only 3 pt loss to more than likely a no.5 Georgia. We would have beaten 5 ranked teams. There is a formula in place put the most deserving teams in place. Going undefeated means absolutely shite when you play a bullshite schedule. Computers are unbiased.
Posted on 10/8/13 at 12:07 pm to AngryBeavers
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If we win out and don't get in it will be a travesty and a fitting end to the all the BCS bullshite...
And a fitting beginning to theNew bullshite Era in which the likes of Condoleezza Rice will decide which 4 teams get into the playoff. These buffoons just can't help making asinine decisions.
Posted on 10/8/13 at 12:20 pm to nycajun
Agreed. This whole panel of "experts" is a joke.
Posted on 10/8/13 at 12:21 pm to CrippleCreek
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All four of those schools probably have tougher schedules this year than Bama and aTm.
The true travesty this season
Posted on 10/8/13 at 12:22 pm to Dr Rosenrosen
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Storm is brewing for a split title IMO. I can easily see a 1-loss SEC champ getting in over an undefeated Stanford/Louisville/Oregon or vice versa and creating a possible split.
It could happen, but I'm not so sure it will.
I'm an LSU fan so of course I'd love a 1-loss LSU team to get a bid over a PAC12 or ACC champ that was undefeated....and we do play a tougher schedule overall than those teams....but when it comes down to it taking of my SEC glasses is say they do play a legitimately though schedule.
Oklahoma/Baylor/Texas tech ...they would at least have one top ten victory but overall their schedules are far weaker than any SEC school that didn't have a tailor made conference schedule.
But Ohio state....hell no! They won't play a top ten team and at best might face three teams in the top 25. They are a creation of media bias hyping the brand name. Not only do they not have a schedule to prove they are a good team, they haven't really looked good against the borderline "good" teams they have played
They had the opportunity to beef up their OOC schedule and instead face cal (71 per CFN), San Diego state (100), buffalo (104) and FAMU (FCS).
Throw in Iowa (43), Illinois 55), penn state (46), and Purdue (82) and it means two-thirds of their schedule is outside the top 40
In comparison LSU will face at least three top ten teams, 7 in the top 40 ...not including SEC championship
Posted on 10/8/13 at 12:23 pm to CrippleCreek
quote:that's very subjective.
f a PAC team goes undefeated that will be a huge accomplishment. Washington/Stanford/Oregon/UCLA are all legit, and ASU and a few others don't suck and are equal to at least an Ole Miss type win.
Posted on 10/8/13 at 12:29 pm to otowntiger
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that's very subjective.
And saying their schedules are a joke isn't?
The influx of coaching talent to the Pac the last few years is making a difference, and all four of those schools are fielding very very good football teams.
To suggest a 1 loss team of any kind should get chosen over an undefeated Pac team this season is the height of dumbassery.
Posted on 10/8/13 at 12:39 pm to dnm3305
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Well, fortunately this is bullshite.
Uh, no it's not.
Have you been paying attention during the BCS era? 2004 Auburn? Defeated 3 top-10 teams and was left out. And they were UNDEFEATED.
A 1-loss LSU will NOT jump an undefeated ACC, Pac-12, or Big-12 13-0 champion. It just won't happen.
Maybe, MAYBE since beating UGA would be avenging their only loss, things might get wacky and suspenseful in the last poll of the season.
But to say outright that what I said is bullshite is delusion at its finest.
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There is a formula in place put the most deserving teams in place
Too bad the Harris and Coach's Poll are 2/3 of the formula. It's not all computer rankings.
This post was edited on 10/8/13 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 10/8/13 at 12:49 pm to UGATiger26
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Have you been paying attention during the BCS era? 2004 Auburn? Defeated 3 top-10 teams and was left out. And they were UNDEFEATED. A 1-loss LSU will NOT jump an undefeated ACC, Pac-12, or Big-12 13-0 champion. It just won't happen. Maybe, MAYBE since beating UGA would be avenging their only loss, things might get wacky and suspenseful in the last poll of the season.
2004 Auburn was before the Sec won 7 straight....course, as it applies to this year I think anti-SEC sentiment > respect for SEC
You are correct about PAC 12 and ACC, and not only do I agree that would happen I also think it should
However, the BIG 12 has no championship game...so they would only be 12-0
Which brings up the third point you are correct about "maybe things get whacky". I think beating a UGA team that has won out is the key, especially if it is by more than a TD. That pushes over OU, Baylor or Texas tech
Posted on 10/8/13 at 12:51 pm to lsusa
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However, the BIG 12 has no championship game...so they would only be 12-0
True, I forgot they don't have a championship game anymore.
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as it applies to this year I think anti-SEC sentiment > respect for SEC
Unfortunately, this will be part of the equation. And it doesn't help that Miami beat Florida and Clemson beat UGA.
This post was edited on 10/8/13 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 10/8/13 at 1:13 pm to UGATiger26
The question I have is does a 12-1 LSU (who won the conference championship game) leap over a 12-0 Ohio State who did not play a conference championship game.
I believe this is what happened when we lept over USC in 2003. But back then it was more computer and less human factor and has since been changed to more human poll factor and less computer factor.
IMO-- we would need to destroy Georgia in the conf championship game to make a statement that would influence the human polls enough.
I believe this is what happened when we lept over USC in 2003. But back then it was more computer and less human factor and has since been changed to more human poll factor and less computer factor.
IMO-- we would need to destroy Georgia in the conf championship game to make a statement that would influence the human polls enough.
Posted on 10/8/13 at 1:19 pm to dpelle1
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I believe this is what happened when we lept over USC in 2003. But back then it was more computer and less human factor and has since been changed to more human poll factor and less computer factor.
USC had a loss that year. They weren't undefeated.
I'm 99% sure that an undefeated power conference team has never been left out of the BCSCG in favor of a 1-loss team.
Posted on 10/8/13 at 1:20 pm to dpelle1
Big 10 has a championship game now, so LSU won't leapfrog OSU if they are undefeated.
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