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re: my take on the 2018 football season
Posted on 5/20/18 at 1:01 pm to LSU GrandDad
Posted on 5/20/18 at 1:01 pm to LSU GrandDad
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Miami
has finished unranked every year but 2 since 2008.
they have 2 top 20 finishes since 2005
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 1:05 pm to Fishhead
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I've heard the first thing to go is the memory, but 2011 was pretty tough...
Ya..was that the year we played a top 5 Oregon and ranked W Virginia?
Posted on 5/20/18 at 1:14 pm to Genestealer55
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Ya..was that the year we played a top 5 Oregon and ranked W Virginia?
we beat the pac 12 champ away from home
beat the big east champ in their house
beat bama at bama
beat arky that finished top 5
we beat 3 of the 4 other teams that finished top 5. 2 of which were away from home
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 5/20/18 at 1:19 pm to LSU GrandDad
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Miles and his big mouth; we got the breaks in the first bama game and he had to say "it would be an honor to play that team again". he planted the damn seed that got him buried.
I had forgotten about that. Ain’t that the truth!!!
Posted on 5/20/18 at 1:21 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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we beat the pac 12 champ away from home beat the big east champ in their house beat bama at bama beat arky that finished top 5 we beat 3 of the 4 other teams that finished top 5. 2 of which were away from home
Ya..I’ve always thought that was the greatest regular season ever...up for debate I’m sure...but top 3 for sure
Posted on 5/20/18 at 1:27 pm to Tigertown in ATL
12-0 is a very real possibility
With all that LSU has added, no team they play will have more talent
With all that LSU has added, no team they play will have more talent
Posted on 5/20/18 at 1:27 pm to LSU GrandDad
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Miles and his big mouth; we got the breaks in the first bama game and he had to say "it would be an honor to play that team again". he planted the damn seed that got him buried.
I said from the moment it came out it was a huge mistake. But make no mistake he didn’t plant the fricking seed.
Everyone knew it was a possibility. The whole two weeks leading up to the game the media was speculating about it.
The on field reporter straight up asked him “How would you feel about a rematch” which put him on the spot and he tried to answer with class like he always did.
Still, even that was a big mistake. Ive always said he should have just said something like “we aren’t thinking that far ahead we’ve still got several games to go” or something like that.
It still wouldn’t have mattered as ESPN had already decided the game they wanted to air, but yeah that clip didn’t help us or OSU
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 5/20/18 at 2:26 pm to Tidus Powell
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Tidus Powell
Are you one of those that thinks Orgeron can do no wrong? And propping up Mississippi State is making the case beforehand for Orgeron to keep his job if he keeps losing to State?
Am I wrong in saying that if LSU doesn't consistently beat MSU, that Orgeron shouldn't keep his job? That isn't just for Orgeron either, its for any LSU coach. If you are losing to MSU regularly, then you are probably losing to 3-4 other SEC teams regularly too. Have we reached a point where we are calling Miss St a better program than LSU?
Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:11 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
I'm here because I'm an Ohio State fan interested in Joe Burrow's new team. Burrow was a good teammate and good QB who had some really awful luck in being at Ohio State at the same time as Dwayne Haskins, who is the best pro style QB prospect that OSU's had in a long damn time.
So believe me when I say that I really don't care about excuses or whether Coach O should be fired, or anything like that. I'm not an LSU fan, and that's not my place. I'm here just to get a sense of what to expect Burrow's 2018 home to look like.
But... as a spectator of the SEC West, Mississippi State is gonna frick up someone's season. It could be Bama, it could be Auburn, it could be - yes - LSU. But some poor team is gonna talk about 'ah, it's JUST Mississippi State' and is gonna get wrecked.
(my guess is that it's Auburn, but *shrug*)
Not trying to make excuses Coach O, because I really, deeply do not care about who should coach LSU. That's for y'all to talk about.
So believe me when I say that I really don't care about excuses or whether Coach O should be fired, or anything like that. I'm not an LSU fan, and that's not my place. I'm here just to get a sense of what to expect Burrow's 2018 home to look like.
But... as a spectator of the SEC West, Mississippi State is gonna frick up someone's season. It could be Bama, it could be Auburn, it could be - yes - LSU. But some poor team is gonna talk about 'ah, it's JUST Mississippi State' and is gonna get wrecked.
(my guess is that it's Auburn, but *shrug*)
Not trying to make excuses Coach O, because I really, deeply do not care about who should coach LSU. That's for y'all to talk about.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:58 pm to LSU GrandDad
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oh, I certainly do. remember, we played bama twice. I think our regular season schedule is just as tough this year (Miami instead of Oregon) with MSU and maybe Auburn being better this year. I can't remember our other tough OOC opponent that year. west Virginia? if so, the aggies will probably be as good as they were.
Well that Oregon team was better than what this Miami team will be. They lost to #2 LSU by 13 neutral site, and by 3 to #6 USC. They won the Rose Bowl by beating the Russell Wilson led Wisconsin team.
We beat West Virginia by almost 4 TDs, but they finished 10-3 and won the Orange bowl. Them and Miami are probably close to even though.
Before the 2011 season you had the previous year's;
12-0 Auburn (defending national champs, of course without Newton or Fairley)
12-1 Oregon (national championship participant)
10-3 Arkansas (Sugar Bowl participant)
10-3 Alabama
9-4 WVU
Even if you omit Auburn because of losing those two greats, we had 4 teams on the schedule that had previous 9 wins or better. But then if I omit Auburn, should I omit UGA who lost a ton themselves? Right now both schedules are almost even in their toughness (two prior year national championship participants, two 10 win teams, and a 9 win team).
However to say all that, I do believe this schedule will be much tougher considering Ole Miss, Miss St, UF, and possibly TAMU will be better than last year.
I had us at 7-5 (6-6 worst case) for months, but with Burrow, I think we can beat UF, Miss St, Auburn, and Miami now. UGA is going to win 10-11 regular season games again and Bama is Bama, so I'll project those as losses for now. If we can manage a 10-2 season this year (with a bowl possibility at 11 wins), then I think we are a top 5 team going into 2019
Posted on 5/20/18 at 4:07 pm to roygu
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If we match Miles record in his second year, I assume that qualifies "O" to get a pay raise equal to Miles and an automatic extension after each season? After all Miles didn't leave him a JR or Flynn quality QB.
I see no reason not to be optimistic about the season. Like Grandad, I'm on the train.
He did leave him Aranda, and what should be the future in 2020 Brennan or Narcisse. Flynn started one game before playing as a redshirt senior in 2007. Statistically, Russell's 2005 season was on par with Etling's. To do what he did in 2005 with all that natural disasters shite that happened, was a hell of a sports accomplishment. He also left him an opening to get an OC that was actually a QB guru and ran a modern offense well already. The windfall of Fournette and Guice alone kept us from looking worse than anemic on offense as well.
I'm on the LSU being good train too, but I'm not on the Miles bashing to cut O some slack train.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 4:24 pm to Datbayoubengal
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I'm on the LSU being good train too, but I'm not on the Miles bashing to cut O some slack train.
Well said. I'm on board that train as well.
I've always felt that anything less than a 10 win season was underachieving. Before Burrow transferred in, I wasn't expecting o to be able to win more than 9 games total. Burrow may be able to secure another win or two as the QB. But if this team wins less than 10 games, that's a disappointment and I think Alleva and o should be shown the door.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 4:26 pm to dallastiger55
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With all that LSU has added, no team they play will have more talent
bama is vastly more talented than lsu
Posted on 5/20/18 at 4:37 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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I think people are overrating Georgia.
I knew this would come up. No, UGA is not overrated.
UGA lost Chubb and Michel, but bring back their 5 star RB that had 770 yards and 4 TDs from scrimmage as a 3rd string. They also have the #3 RB, #6 RB, and another 5 star #1 RB.
Fromm as a true freshman threw 24 TD passes and ran for 3 more in less than 15 games. He was in a pro style offense and honestly looked more capabale than a guy who was a 5th year senior with over 2 years of starting experience. If Etling's stats were extrapolated over 15 games, he'd still only have 21 TDs total. Fromm's backup is a 5 star tied for the best QB out of last year's class and probably one of the best QB recruits in years.
They have two 5 star WRs, a 5 star TE, Calvin Ridley's brother (all starters), and a host of other highly rated WRs and TEs.
The OL is loaded with top talent
The DE and LB position is just oozing with talent and depth. It's Bama level talent.
The secondary will probably be on par with a typical Bama secondary.
UGA has 12 5 stars in their 2 deep, LSU has two (and 4 on the team in total).
Saban took a 6-7 team and went 7-6 his first year, went 12-0 (12-2 final) his second year, and went undefeated winning a championship in his 3rd. Smart took a 10-3 UGA team, went 8-5 with a true freshman QB in his first year, then went 11-1 (13-2 final) in his second year with another true freshman. His team this year will more than likely be a monster. Please don't fall into the stupid trap that many do when Bama loses a bunch of players. Kirby Smart has learned from the best for as many years as Les Miles was our coach.
There are two games I won't believe we win until we actually do win them, and both of those are UGA and Bama
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:25 pm to Tidus Powell
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But... as a spectator of the SEC West, Mississippi State is gonna frick up someone's season. It could be Bama, it could be Auburn, it could be - yes - LSU. But some poor team is gonna talk about 'ah, it's JUST Mississippi State' and is gonna get wrecked.
I don’t disagree with that at all, but LSU and O don’t get that luxury this year.
That was last year, when they pushed our fricking shite in by 30+ in the worst loss to that program in the 100+ year history of the series, and only our second loss to them since 1993.
If MSU “sneaks up” on LSU this year it is a massive sign that things are totally off the tracks in Baton Rouge.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:35 pm to Tiger Voodoo
The schedule is a brute - SEC WEST, FL, GA & Miami. Do you really think an 8 win season with this team would be bad? Not at all. I am pulling for 10 & the experience carries over to the big one the following year.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:36 pm to Datbayoubengal
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No, UGA is not overrated.
I wouldn’t say they are “overrated”, they are deserving of the top 10 ranking they hold.
But what the poster said was that “people are overrating Georgia”, meaning that LSU fans specifically may see this as a game we can’t win along the lines of Alabama.
While you posted great info on their personnel, until they do it with those two great NFL running backs to take pressure off of their still young QB, all the stars and rankings don’t mean much.
We saw first hand last year what can happen when even a great NFL level RB takes over for another great back after looking good running behind them for a couple of years. It’s different when you move up to #1, it just is. Whether it’s wear and tear, pressure, or just plain not being as good when a stud isn’t beating up the defense for you before you go in, you can’t just assume they won’t take even a small step back while this new team figures itself out.
Learning under Saban is great, but he is an absolute exception to the rule that teams don’t take steps back. Not knocking Smart or the program he’s building, but walking in with the pressure of a national title is a different animal than the Cinderella story they wrote last year.
They very well could be just as good or even better than last year, but like I said in my earlier post, until I see UGA hasn’t skipped a beat, I’ll always put beating a really good Auburn team on the road as a tougher task than beating even a really good UGA team in Tiger Stadium
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 5/20/18 at 6:09 pm to tigernnola
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Do you really think an 8 win season with this team would be bad?
Well,
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An LSU coach has lost 4 games in the regular season only THREE times since 2001.
2002
2008
2014
If 2018 is added onto that very short list, it certainly wouldn’t be good
Posted on 5/20/18 at 6:52 pm to tigernnola
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The schedule is a brute - SEC WEST, FL, GA & Miami. Do you really think an 8 win season with this team would be bad? Not at all. I am pulling for 10 & the experience carries over to the big one the following year.
are you serious?
we play 1 team with a decent talent advantage over us.
if we only win 8 games and O isnt fired chicken may as well shut this site down. there will be zero support for O after that.
its amazing how 2 years of O has some lsu fans thinking 8 wins is ok regardless of the schedule
Posted on 5/20/18 at 6:59 pm to LSU GrandDad
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3.OFFENSE: I think this will be the most balanced offense we've had in a long while; it's just going to take some time to develop. while we do not have a Hill, Fournette or Guice, we have some quality backs. we have a stable of outstanding WR's and a good WR coach; ditto for TE's. AND, we now have a QB that is capable of putting it all together. provided, that is, our OL can get healthy and get sorted out and eventually gel. the center position is concerning and so is the RT to an extent. I think the talent is there and so is the coaching but they have to grow up fast with Miami and Auburn being 2 of the first three games we play. this offense will improve all season and will be very good by years end.
Coach Burrow (D-1 defensive coordinator) made the visit with his son and the meeting with coaches was scheduled to last 2 hours and turned into a 4 hour meeting.
The fact a D-1 DC would help his son choose LSU means he is impressed and has confidence/faith in the coaches and scheme that will be molding his son’s future.
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