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re: Miles' aplogists on the QB situation...

Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:30 am to
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48348 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:30 am to
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Talented redshirt freshmen and true freshmen qbs can succeed, see Sam Bradford and old example Tommy Hodson.


Neither of whom were coached by college football's greatest oppressor of talent, Gary Crowten.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37259 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:35 am to
quote:

You want to COMPLETELY blame the head coach.


And some people want to NEVER blame the head coach. They will try to explain away every bone headed move, recruiting blunder, and bad hire he makes.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425080 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:38 am to
quote:

What if Garrett was just fricking terrible? Is that possible?

then miles sucks dick at recruiting QBs
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
59469 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:42 am to
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then miles sucks dick at recruiting QBs


And that would be a valid criticism. Letting Garrett go is not.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425080 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:47 am to
it depends on why he let him go

but with our paper thin QB roster with CG, letting him go (especially if he was outright cut) is ballsier than anything miles has done at LSU
Posted by Krypto
Denham Springs, LA
Member since Aug 2005
1476 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 11:10 am to
So it is 100% fact somewhere in your "reality" that LSU will never win another SEC title if Miles is the coach? You may wish we were there, but I for one and damn glad I do not live in your reality.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10234 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 11:11 am to
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then miles sucks dick at recruiting QBs


This is the problem and it's systemic. He made his bed with Crowton. Crowton can not judge talent and he can't coach worth a shite, he dreams up all these wonderful formations and packages and noone gets it but him. Now the product on the field sucks and kids don't want to play for someone who can't make them better. Until Miles figures this shite out, which I now think he is like Dinardo to stubborn too, we will struggle.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17716 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 11:20 am to
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This is the problem and it's systemic. He made his bed with Crowton. Crowton can not judge talent and he can't coach worth a shite, he dreams up all these wonderful formations and packages and noone gets it but him.


You may be onto something. Crowton is the biggest problem right now at LSU and obviously does not know what type of QB he needs for his system. Does Crowton even coach? I mean, I know he's busy coming up with complicated plays and formations that doesn't involve our best playmaker, but does he teach fundamentals? Techinque? I'm thinking he doesn't. This explains why he does so well his first year, and shitty by his 3rd year.
Posted by byubengalboy
Cypress, tx.
Member since Nov 2008
3719 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 11:22 am to
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please do your best to excuse this and the future of the QB pos...go...


no excuses need to be made. as usual...you pussies are freaking out over stuff that happens all the time in college sports. the only mistake made was offering RP and thinking that he would hold up his end of the bargain. you pussies need to run down to marshalls...a new truckload of thongs just arrived.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10234 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 11:24 am to
Yep that's my theory and I'm sticking to it. I am losing my posi-tiger status quickly man I don't know what to do. Hell I feel like Crowton I have no identity right now.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
204025 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 11:30 am to
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Neither of whom were coached by college football's greatest oppressor of talent, Gary Crowten



BOOM!!!!!!!!!
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4725 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 11:37 am to
to think that a message board gives a public forum for such ignorant, immature, and down out right stupid comments to be made.

yep, crowton's a dumb@$$ he makes more money than anyone on this board calling him dumb. who's the dummy? the one making 500k to coach or the cat at the keyboard?
Posted by Tigerbait337
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2008
20535 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 11:59 am to
quote:

Prominentwon


My favorite poster on this site. People don't understand, that though Miles has had frick ups before, you don't do something like this without some logical reason.

Now..if we don't get Zack Lee..then something is wrong here, but its not time to panic yet.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
20931 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 12:10 pm to
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I know one thing investing all your eggs into a QB who is a major league pitching prospect is not very smart either


Miles has been pumping up Lee, could some kind of guarantee been given to him that he will play?? You can't force someone to come to school with the possibility of huge bucks being tossed around, but who knows? Maybe Lee really wants a go at football, knowing baseball is still there in a few years. Very interesting story, can't wait to see what Miles has to say on the matter, but if they did drop Garrett's scholly, that is very strange situation. No question that Lee will not redshirt, that's probably part of the plan.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36905 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 12:13 pm to
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And some people want to NEVER blame the head coach. They will try to explain away every bone headed move, recruiting blunder, and bad hire he makes.


na, some people just like to get all the facts before flipping out.
Posted by jdrumdog
baton rouge, la
Member since Jan 2010
7655 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

If Lee goes to MLB, we might as well not play the 2012 season.


One day, there needs to be a Tigerdroppings.com all time best quotes book.

I nominate this idiotic statement to lead in the book.
Posted by jdrumdog
baton rouge, la
Member since Jan 2010
7655 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

Saban and Meyer aren't coming off 8-5 and 9-4 years where QB play was a major concern, either.


While they weren't coming off of 8-5 and 9-4 seasons, Meyer had arguably the greatest college football player ever, much less in the last decade, and if you think Alabama fans didn't question their QB play, you're fricking kidding yourself.
Posted by Jason9782003
Member since Aug 2007
3558 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 12:29 pm to
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He probably wanted to leave because he has not had a coach since he got here


This is what I'm thinking. Gary Crowton doesn't have a good history of developing QB's and seeing the horrible development of JL and JJ maybe CG felt his skills would not be developed properly at LSU hence killing his chances at an NFL career.

I wasn't impressed with CG in the spring game, but given that neither one of our startes (JJ & JL) have really solidified themselves as the starter so I don't believe Miles cut CG.

This is 100% speculation on my part
This post was edited on 7/9/10 at 12:31 pm
Posted by wilfont
Gulfport, MS on a Jet Ski
Member since Apr 2007
14860 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

Jefferson is our QB and will start every game barring injury.

I don't believe this for a second. If Jefferson is not producing Miles will sit him down in a heartbeat. To think injury is the only way he comes off the field is a bit unrealistic IMO.
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
9526 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 12:34 pm to
Miles has shown he can't recruit a QB to LSU that is worth a shite. Either they have limited talent or Miles/Crowton can't develop them. Either way, the QB situation is ridiculous heading into Miles's 6th year on the job.

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