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re: Mainieri responds to question about pulling Hilliard

Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:54 pm to
Posted by BayouBlogger
Left Coast
Member since Aug 2015
1025 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:54 pm to
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We also left Marceaux in when we could have went to Fontenot.


If Hilliard had runners first and third I would have been OK with taking him out.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85088 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:54 pm to
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don’t think anyone even had it in their mind to even suggest pulling him after 76 pitches.

So let’s say he had 2 runners on base and let’s say he was at 80 pitches with the go ahead at the plate.

I still don’t think we would be calling to pull him.

We would ride our guy.

There was no reason to pull Hilliard unless Hilliard asked to come out.

Ding, turn the page


Shows how little many are even paying attention. Hilliard hasn’t thrown more than 80 pitches only once all year. He had 1-2-3 coming up in the 6th.

It wasn’t a crazy move - plain and simple.
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 11:08 pm
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30337 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:56 pm to
Yes it was a crazy move because the season is on the line.

We’re not talking about a midweek game.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57728 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:56 pm to
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Shows how little many are even paying attention. Hilliard has thrown more than 80 pitches only once all year. He had 1-2-3 coming up in the 6th. It wasn’t a crazy move - plain and simple.


Who gives a shite it’s the postseason, you don’t follow what’s been done the rest of the year strictly as your guide. If he was at 96 pitches? Sure pull him, but the kid is on a heater and at a reasonable amount of pitches. You cannot pull him there
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164292 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:57 pm to
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Hilliard has thrown more than 80 pitches only once all year.

He’s only started the last 5 weeks and Paul used him with kid gloves every time outside of Auburn
Posted by Jugular Joe
Member since Jan 2020
4335 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:57 pm to
So he readily admits to buying into the pipe dream that an overly erratic Coleman would find lighting in a bottle in 2 successive outings.

That's just great.

Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278547 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:58 pm to
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If we went into Game 1 of a Super with the mindset that we’d be “happy” to get 5 innings out of our starting pitcher, then he shouldn’t have been our starting pitcher to begin with. Or you have the wrong mindset.



1. Hilliard has only pitched more than 5ip twice all season

2. He started on weird rest schedule after pitching twice last weekend

3. He pitched through a rain delay todsy

4. Coleman Vs their LH power hitters was more ideal than Hilliard pitching to their lineup 3rd time around

5 the defense let Coleman Down
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:59 pm to
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Shows how little many are even paying attention. Hilliard has thrown more than 80 pitches only once all year. He had 1-2-3 coming up in the 6th.

It wasn’t a crazy move - plain and simple.


I assume you meant to type hasnt*

This is game 1 in a super regional at the end of his season. He may never pitch again

He was very capable of going another inning or 2 with the way he was throwing

If you you’re agreeing with the decision to yank him, well that just shows how little you know about the game.

But you’re an expert on tennis so I’ll digress
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 11:01 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85088 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:03 pm to
quote:

Yes it was a crazy move because the season is on the line.

We’re not talking about a midweek game.


It wasn’t crazy. Coleman is a called K away from winning 2-1.
Posted by Python
Member since May 2008
6290 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:04 pm to
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5 the defense let Coleman Down

Didn’t he give up a double and 3 walks?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:04 pm to
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5 the defense let Coleman Down




Can’t really disagree there

I know there were some bonehead plays while Coleman was in,...were there any errors charged? Had to be at least one
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278547 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:06 pm to
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Didn’t he give up a double and 3 walks?


Well the one that ignited it was strike 3 that Milazzo failed to catch competently

The Doughty make a terrible play on a weak contact ball
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85088 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:06 pm to
quote:

He was very capable of going another inning or 2 with the way he was throwing

If you you’re agreeing with the decision to yank him, well that just shows how little you know about the game.


Our offense was putrid. No great reason to think we’d score again. You have to coach as if 2-2 is basically a loss there IMO. You’ve got to get through the line up one more time with someone before your closer. Starting Coleman with a fresh inning isn’t a terrible idea.

I’m saying the decision to yank him has a few good reasons, just as the decision to keep him in would have.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10093 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:06 pm to
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Paul has a thing for Coleman. He had him tossing for almost two innings just waiting to go in for a senior who was shoving it.
MH was in a bit of trouble earlier after rain delay.
Mostly Ump problems.
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 11:08 pm
Posted by TigerBR1111
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
6588 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:07 pm to
If this had been one of only a few questionable pitching moves that had backfired you could possibly overlook it but this has become a very noticeable pattern for Maineri
Posted by Python
Member since May 2008
6290 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:08 pm to
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Well the one that ignited it was strike 3 that Milazzo failed to catch competently The Doughty make a terrible play on a weak contact ball

So that’s a yes on a double and there walks then?
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61962 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:09 pm to
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5 the defense let Coleman Down


One play

Coleman had 1 out, then walked a guy after having a 0-2 count, then he gave up a double, then the error. then a walk, then a ground out, then a single, then he got out of the inning.

Coleman was anything but sharp when he entered the game.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:10 pm to
Well I just don’t see how you justify pulling him at 76 pitches, in the lead, shite it going well, he’s grooving.

Taking him out the game changed everything

It changed the entire game.
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 11:11 pm
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:12 pm to
quote:

this has become a very noticeable pattern for Maineri





I’ve been preaching this for 5 years
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278547 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:13 pm to
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I know there were some bonehead plays while Coleman was in,...were there any errors charged? Had to be at least one


Fielders choice cause he attempted to tag the guy rather then the batter at 1st

Play should have been to home. He wasn’t prepared
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