re: LSU suddenly the trendy dark horse

McElwain was the only hire that Saban made in that period that you would say would be better than what Miles did, and even then there were Bama fans who thought he wasn't aggressive enough with his playcalling. Seemed like a good offensive coach overall though.

McElwain using the pistol how he did was pretty magical

Bama and Auburn are 2 extreme examples in this discussion. Bama runs a basic principle of an offense, but they adjust and tinker and add new wrinkles every year, adjusting for schemes and talent. Auburn has one system that is just great and they recruit guys for that offense and hit it hard.

LSU has a super complicated offense that requires everything to work at a high level, and if everything isn't hitting on all cylinders, Cam and Les just say "frick it" and we go back to the 1930s. no adjustment. if they miss on the evaluation of a QB recruit? no adjustment. shut it down.

I don't get why some of you are engaging SFP. There is a small core group that are Saban fans first and foremost. They will never acknowledge what Les is doing or has done. These Tard's become more obvious when they want to put Gus ahead of Les.. The big question is why are they sitll on the rant when they clearly have other infatuations?

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They will never acknowledge what Les is doing or has done.

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saban is brought up because since Les has been at LSU, Saban has had more success as a college head coach. do you agree or disagree?

you should agree, because basically he's done better than every coach and may be the GOAT. that means he's the standard

if Saban had never come back to college, we'd be comparing Les to Urban Meyer, who has done better than every coach not named Saban, since Les has been at LSU. this means that yes, Urban Meyer has also done better than Les

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The big question is why are they sitll on the rant when they clearly have other infatuations?

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i care about LSU winning national titles

we haven't in a long while

since we have, plenty of other SEC schools have

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So many people bought into the Coker hype when it was said that he nearly beat out Winston for FSU's QB spot in 2013.

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It's looking like Coker may not win the starting job this year either so that would eliminate the point you are trying to make.

So if Les wins one more then how does your scenario play out? I don't think about Saban, Myer or any other coach. I think about LSU. But if I did live in your world then my coach would be ranked in the top 3. And with his W/L record against them and what the present and future looks to hold, what do I have to complain about?

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So if Les wins one more then how does your scenario play out? I

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I will be happy for LSU

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I don't think about Saban, Myer or any other coach

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well i look at the best to see what LSU needs to do in order to reach that level (since if they are the best, by default, we are not)

how else do you know what is a good team if you don't look at other teams?

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we haven't in a long while

since we have, plenty of other SEC schools have

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3 is "plenty"? 5 schools have won the National Championship since LSU has, 5 out of 125...

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when he's not very well regarded or talented (so not talented he had been moved to RB previously b/c he wasn't a good QB)

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None of that talk came from Saban or Alabama. That talk came from fans which is meaningless in the big picture.

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possibly, but we said the same thing a year ago and they ended up having a great offense and made the playoffs

under saban, we can't count bama out until they're out (LSU games are a microcosm of this)

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Offensively, it is a rebuild job for Alabama. Their front 7 seven on defense isn't in rebuild mode though. There's still question marks regarding their secondary which has been their achilles heel the last two seasons.

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we had that. he failed.

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Who Mett? Was he responsible for the defensive collapses in 2013 too?

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you think our offense would have been more efficient if we kept rivers? he only transferred b/c jennings was ahead of him

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No, Rivers is garbage. What hurt is not having a well respected QB coach/OC on the staff in 2012 which is what probably lead to Gunner Kiel not showing up. Kiel should have been the starter last season had he showed up.

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coming into last year, people were saying the same things about LSU 2014 and 2015. jennings was supposed to be an amazing QB 365 days ago

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You wouldn't have never heard that foolishness come from me.

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i hope we adjust and develop, but history under Les dictates we will only know when we see it, b/c it's only happened once since jimbo's guys left

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Is Crowton & Stud still on the staff? Last time I checked they weren't.

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that sounds like a great adjustment

they adjusted the offense to play to their talent strengths and got their talented WR the ball a lot. it worked

that's the kind of adjustment i wish LSU would do

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It's also an adjustment Saban has openly voiced his displeasure about too. While on a coaches panel on SEC Network, he said the Tide defense was on fhe field for 117 more plays in 2014 than they were in 2013. He said that many additional plays had a negative effect on his defense. There were times last season Saban could be seen on the sidelines yelling at Kiffin to run the ball. So Saban doesn't seem to see it as the great adjustment you make it out to be.

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i thought they'd struggle last year, like most rational people. saban/kiffin had other plans. they won the SEC

something we haven't done since 2011 and something they've done multiple times since then.

stating truth is not "dick riding"

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I know you are proud of your dick. The truth is, Alabama were only a few plays away from being 4th in the West whether you like it or not.

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McElwain was the only hire that Saban made in that period

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Wrong. He has hired Doug Nussmeier & Lane Kiffin as well.