re: LSU suddenly the trendy dark horse

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Get off the crack, bro. Saban couldn't even have one back to back ten win season at LSU while Les had three in his first three years..

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yeah it's called a talent base. saban had to build one and les go to ride on saban's talent levels after his hire

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There is nothing Saban did at LSU that Les hasn't done

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build LSU from the doldroms into a national program and a powerhouse football team is one thing Les has not done

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and in most cases done more and better.

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both have 2 SEC titles at LSU and 1 natty

Saban did it while having to build a program and in half the time

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what is your problem with reality and fact?

i'm trying to have a discussion about fact and reality and you keep bringing up hypotheticals and mythology

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...this statement was immediately preceded by the following:

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and if sims had hit that long pass (that was a perfect call) against OSU, bama gets into its 3rd title game in a row

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but he's that mythical 4th/5th year QB you keep talking about

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I'm talking about Gunner Kiel. I see you conveniently ignored me mentioning him in my other post.

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cam's been here for 2 years and is batting .500

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So now judgements are final on a coach after 2 years? What's Malzahn's excuse for 8-5 in his second season then?

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yeah well that offense carried the defense on occasion. and if sims had hit that long pass (that was a perfect call) against OSU, bama gets into its 3rd title game in a row.

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First off, that isn't the point Saban was making & you know it. Secondly, you are a hypocrite. Sims didn't hit the pass & also Alabama got their shite pushed in up front all game to go along with a leaky secondary.

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i'm trying to have a discussion about fact and reality and you keep bringing up hypotheticals and mythology

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2014 was the "down" or "rebuilding" year for the Alabama offense. i think you keep missing this point, after chest tat went to the NFL

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No it wasn't. If that is considered a rebuilding year, than LSU's 2007 national championship season must have been a rebuilding REBUILDING year.

Bama brought back 3 on OL, all the WRs, both #2 and #3 RBs, and a 5th year senior who had been the backup to McCarron for 2 years prior.

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sims ended up having a season that would be once in a decade had he been on LSU, basically (which in reality is our 2013 season). it was better than any season had by an LSU QB since jimbo's guys left. adn it was their rebuilding season

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Hey genius, his season last year (at least in yardage) was statically the best season in Alabama history.

How about for comparison sakes, we limit them to the first 12 games each?

Sims 328 att (63.1%) 2988 yards (9.1 ypa) 24 TDs
Mett 296 att (64.9%) 3082 yards (10.4 ypa) 22 TDs

So did Sims really have a better season passing than Mett, or did he just pass the ball a lot more? Both were 5th year seniors, both had good-great OLs, both had at least 1 dominant WR, and both had good running games.

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our rebuilding season saw a QB throw for less than 50% in the modern era, which is something that almost seems so difficult that we tried to do it

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Maty Mauk rsjr threw for 53.4% in 2014 with a slew of experienced wideouts, and 51.1% again with a slew of wideouts in his 133 attempts last yead.

Brantley 53.8%, rs Jr who started for over a year prior, and Harris 49.5% true freshman for Florida in 2014.

Brandon Allen as a rs so, completed 49.6% of his passes.

Mizzu QB in 2012 completed 49.7% on 177 attempts and Dylan Thompson completed 52% on 127 attempts.

I'm sure could go around the country and find the same thing, but nah.

LSU had way too much going on for a good rebuild to work out.

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I'm talking about Gunner Kiel

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was never an LSU tiger. again, this is mythology

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So not now judgements are on a coach are final after 2 years?

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you were judging him (positively) after 2 years, not me

i just said he's batting .500 and crowton had a good first year, too.

the implication is he's got to prove himself one way or the other before i judge him (positively or negatively)

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So did Sims really have a better season passing than Mett,

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he clearly had a better overall season when rushing is taken into account. passing is a debate, which speaks volumes about the 2 teams' offenses

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was never an LSU tiger. again, this is mythology

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Did he not commit & just not show up to campus or did I miss something?

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you were judging him (positively) after 2 years, not me

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Yes, I'm judging him positively off of the improvement Mett showed from 2012 to 2013. I'm also giving him the benefit of the doubt because his quarterback development resume' is on par with anyone & is better than some of the same coordinators you are dick riding.

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the implication is he's got to prove himself one way or the other before i judge him (positively or negatively)

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A man that has more pelts on the wall than any other coordinator in the SEC in his coaching history needs to have more time before a positive judgement can be made on him?

Geez man, you have your nose shoved so far up sabans arse, your posts are starting to sound like your getting light headed. Take a step back and take a few breaths.

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are you implying saban is not a better coach than miles?

are you implying that saban has had less success than miles?

which is it? all i'm saying is saban is the best coach in CFB. i

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First off, that's not what I said. I understand its natural for a female to stand up for their dick though.

Secondly, Urban Meyer would like me to pass along to you that he deserves to be in that conversation as well. You know, the guy who gave Saban his last L en route to winning his 3rd title.

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passing is a debate, which speaks volumes about the 2 teams' offenses

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This has been a comedy show.