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re: LSU does not technically control their own destiny

Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:32 pm to
Posted by Random LSU Hero
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Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:32 pm to
quote:

LSU does not technically control their own destiny


Spank you Helper Helpington
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:36 pm to
The SEC is stronger this year than any recent memory. A team with one loss that wins out will have their position ready for the NC. 6 years of dominance in the NC also plays into SEC's favor. This isn't the same. Everybody knows the SEC is good but this year is ridiculous. You have four teams who you could call legit national powers. And then you have teams like TAMU and MSU who are doing good...

LSU
TAMU
Bama
MSU
Georgia
USCe
Florida

All good teams and at least three can be considered powerhouses. Name another conference that comes close to that?
Posted by CajunBandit
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2010
2887 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:39 pm to
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The standard is "the two best teams". I think we would jump Oregon.
No. This is he standard when bama didn't win their way. That doesn't work for anyone else but maybe USC or nd. Maybe OU.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37061 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:41 pm to
quote:

LSU does not technically control their own destiny
This is silly.

If:
LSU wins out (besides the rest of the schedule, this includes beating #1 BCS Bama and the SECCG - #2 BCS UF (or back up to #5 BCS USCe).

Oregon, ND and KSU go undefeated, KSU is left out. In fact KSU is going to need a lot of help even with (2) one loss teams.

This scenario leaves OU, ND and LSU. 0,0,1. Think about this in your head.
Posted by purple passion
Feliciana Hills
Member since Nov 2006
666 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 10:29 am to
We must remember, the BCS formula decides who goes, not some committee.

If we win out in the West, we will beat #1 and two other ranked teams on our way.

Then, we will play either #1 Fla or at least a top-5 east team in the SECCG.

If we win that game, nobody will have our resume in the back half of the season.

Both human polls will then almost certainly rank us #1, and our computers will prolly keep us there or at #2 at worst.

It is all about our final BCS tally, and the quality of our competition gives us a big edge over the contenders from other conferences.

I think it is nearly impossible for an undefeated K-St or ND to best a 1-loss LSU, with the incredibly strong finish we would need, to finish with just our 1 loss in the Swamp.

In fact, it would not be impossible for a 1-loss Bama or Fla to also ace out 1 or 2 non-SEC undefeateds.

You think the rest of the country hated that all-SEC title game last year?

How would the college football world respond to TWO 1-loss SEC teams finishing #1 and #2 and going to Miami, with one or two undefeateds getting left out of the title game?

It COULD happen.

The NCAA would have to move the playoff scenario up to 2013, if it does!


Posted by mtheob17
Charleston, SC
Member since Sep 2009
5332 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 10:30 am to
GERMANS!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by LSUviaCincy
Cincinnati
Member since Sep 2011
874 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 10:42 am to
If Oregon or ND win out then they deserve to go over any one loss team. I am not looking at this through LSU colored glasses just simply they made every game count. They would even get the nod over a one loss Bama team. Yes I said that !
Posted by Tigah32
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
5721 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 10:46 am to
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IAmReality
You're a fig.
quote:

Oregon, Notre Dame, and Kansas State


Notre Dame won't beat OU and USC.

Kstate won't come within 20 of West Va.

Oregon might win out.
Posted by Brendoni
Oklahoma City, Ok
Member since Apr 2009
21283 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 10:47 am to
notre dame isn't going undefeated, they will lose in norman, imo. oregon would have to play usc twice, and ksu has to play in morgantown this weekend. LSU has a long way to go, but if "we" go undefeated, i like our chances.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38378 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 10:50 am to
While it's unlikely that 2 teams from outside the conference go undefeated, there isn't a snowballs chance in hell that a 1 loss SEC team get in over an undefeated oregon, ND, Kstate. I would bet my life on that
Posted by 228Tiger
Harrison County
Member since Feb 2012
12112 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 10:53 am to
dude. if we beat alabama, win out an c win the seccg, we s re in..no questions
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 10:53 am to
I agree with this. Any two undefeated conference team goes in ahead of any one loss-except Alabama.

Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50285 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 11:01 am to
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While it's unlikely that 2 teams from outside the conference go undefeated, there isn't a snowballs chance in hell that a 1 loss SEC team get in over an undefeated oregon, ND, Kstate. I would bet my life on that


1 Loss Bama would get in over unbeaten Kstate or Oregon.

As far as I'm concerned Kstate is wasting their time. In order for the Big 12 to be represented in the BCSCG, it HAS to be OU or Longhorn Network. This was made clear last year. KSU will be left out unless they are the only unbeaten team left from a BCS conference.
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 11:02 am to
If it's not us, I hope the SEC gets screwed. Eff all of em!!!
Posted by TigerTreyjpg
Monroe, LA
Member since Jun 2008
5815 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 11:08 am to
I think a one loss SEC champion goes, especially if that one loss SEC team is LSU, after beating Florida in the SECCG.

Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38378 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 11:10 am to
quote:

I agree with this. Any two undefeated conference team goes in ahead of any one loss-except Alabama.


well that's never happened before...why would it happen this year?
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50285 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 11:12 am to
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well that's never happened before...why would it happen this year?


BC quality wins no longer mean a thing.
Posted by Tayday
Lake Charles. LA
Member since Mar 2011
5520 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 11:14 am to
Bet your sorry arse that a 1 loss SEC champ finishes #1 in the BCS.
Posted by JaxTigah
Jackson, MS
Member since Dec 2009
1499 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 11:18 am to
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1 Loss Bama would get in over unbeaten Kstate or Oregon.



If that one loss is to LSU and LSU wins out and wins the SECCG? How would Bama be ranked above LSU in order to make that a possibility?
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50285 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 11:21 am to
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If that one loss is to LSU and LSU wins out and wins the SECCG? How would Bama be ranked above LSU in order to make that a possibility?


I wasn't playing out a scenario with Bama losing to LSU. I was just answering a question regarding which one-loss SEC team would jump over unbeaten teams.

I was just saying a 1Loss Bama gets in before those two teams.
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