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re: LSU Bball Compared to Teams with Less Draft Picks (Jones Era)

Posted on 4/5/16 at 9:51 am to
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
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Posted on 4/5/16 at 9:51 am to
I applaud the OP for his hard work.

Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/5/16 at 9:51 am to
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All you do is whine and cry and RA people who have a different opinion than you.


No I RA people who blindly call others racist because they have a differing opinion of them
This post was edited on 4/5/16 at 9:51 am
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28724 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 9:53 am to
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Because it isn't football season just yet. Are you brain dead? Is this your first day on the rant?


During football season, these constant threads that bash Miles are deleted.

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No actual LSU fan wants us to go 0-15 in conference play (for the record, teams don't play 15 conference games. I guess you'd know that if you'd actually watched this abortion of a season).


The 0-15 was the record the fan posted, but you can continue with you assumptions.

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it's time to move on.


Its already been stated that he is staying. Are you going to bitch every damn,day until the end of next season? Its time to move on, there is a new thread every fricking day about this shite. Ill support Jones and the team by myself if yall dont want too.

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great recruiter and program manager that has highly questionable offensive philosophies and has brain farts from time to time.


The phrase I see mostly on this board to describe him is Idiot....

Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 4/5/16 at 9:55 am to
You're honestly too stupid to warrant a response. Prayers sent
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28724 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 9:57 am to
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No I RA people who blindly call others racist because they have a differing opinion of them




I didnt start the threads and I didnt blindly call anyone racist. I said Jones gets more criticsm than he deserves because he is black. Ive only said that a couple of times anyway.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28724 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 9:59 am to
Or you cant match my intellectual level so you have to resort to insults. You seem to find me in every one of these threads and bring up something regarding race.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39980 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 10:00 am to
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Or you cant match my intellectual level so you have to resort to insults.

sure, let's go with that.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/5/16 at 10:12 am to
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I said Jones gets more criticsm than he deserves because he is black.


Right. What about the criticism from the national media? Because he's black, right?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36031 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 10:14 am to
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3 NCAATs, 2 16s, 2 4s and a final.


Kentucky hasn't won a title since Jones took over at LSU.

Louisville, Duke, UConn, and Villanova all have, and Ky hasn't despite a football team full of NBA picks.
This post was edited on 4/5/16 at 11:07 am
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 4/5/16 at 10:14 am to
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I said Jones gets more criticsm than he deserves because he is black.

Which is beyond fricking idiotic.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28724 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 10:38 am to
Thats the way I feel, you feel differently. Doesnt make either of us right. So stop race baiting everytime I say something defending Jones.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28724 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 10:41 am to
Yea, people whose saying shite based on 1 game. They werent saying that when we blew,Kentucky out at home. They were calling us dangerous after the Oklahoma game. These people say whatever fits their agenda for that day.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25544 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 10:44 am to
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I said Jones gets more criticsm than he deserves because he is black.


and everyone is telling you you are a dumbass for saying that, b/c no one gives a flying frick that he's black. We, LSU fans, not just white people, don't like JJ b/c he's not a good coach. While most people were not happy with his hiring, considering his resume, just about everyone wanted him to succeed, and there's nothing better than having your hometown guy come back and coach and succeed, but that's just not going to happen with JJ b/c he's not a good coach.

We have had top 25 starting talent the last two years, yet we finished RPI's of 54 and 94.
Why are schools like Tulsa and Iona finishing ahead of us every year?
College basketball isn't always about having the best talent, which is what makes March Madness so great. But it sure as shite helps a whole lot and gives you a massive advantage over teams like Tulsa, Iona, and Northern Iowa, yet they are so far better coached than us that the advantage is in their corner.

You seem to be defending him, simply b/c he's black, despite embarrassing us nationally the last two years with 2 draft picks on each of those teams.
You say he is getting guys to the NBA. He's doing that in spite of himself. Simmons was a unanimous #1 pick. Now he might go 2nd after his terrible season at LSU. TQ was a projected high 2nd rounder to start the season. He went backwards and might not be drafted. Jarell Martin could have stayed another year and improved and have a shot at being a lottery pick, instead he went early, which wasn't that big of a deal, and had this quote from a scout, " To Martin's credit, the environment he was in the past two years was not the most disciplined, so there is some hope that he can make strides quickly in more organized settings," when describing how he isnt' a better defender or rebounder than expected based on his size and athleticism.

You saying we don't give Les a hard time is just the dumbest thing in the world. Half the fan base wants him gone today, 90% of the other half wanted him gone before the TAMU game, and some of those started changing there minds as the week went by b/c you start realizing what he's already done here. Despite him making LSU one of the premier college football programs in the country, people still want him gone, and if he under performs again this year, he probably will be b/c the fan reaction to get him fired will be through the roof.


Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25544 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 10:47 am to
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Kentucky hasn't won a title since Jones took over at LSU.



Who said they did?
Final /= Championship
Final = lost championship game
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45050 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 10:48 am to
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I didnt start the threads and I didnt blindly call anyone racist. I said Jones gets more criticsm than he deserves because he is black. Ive only said that a couple of times anyway.


See the very first link

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Hey I'm not the one that thinks Jones is criticized based on the color of his skin.


I never once said that.


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The thread you blindly called everyone racist in has since been deleted, along with other posts of yours. But here are just a few examples.
This post was edited on 4/5/16 at 10:49 am
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10088 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 10:50 am to
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Kentucky hasn't won a title since Jones took over at LSU.
Correct, a final app isn't a NC.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28724 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 10:57 am to
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You seem to be defending him, simply b/c he's black


I want Nikki Caldwell fired and she looks black to me.

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You saying we don't give Les a hard time is just the dumbest thing in the world.


Ive never once said this. Please show me this post.


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We have had top 25 starting talent the last two years, yet we finished RPI's of 54 and 94.


Last year, yes. We were not good this year. We did absolutely nothing away from the PMac all season. Our starting center couldn't even see the court at,Arizona. And the guys behind him were pathetic. This was not some dream team, but yall keep believing that.

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, not just white people,


The issue is, yall think im saying something in regards to white people which I am not. Ive not mentioned anything in regards of white people.



Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36031 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 11:06 am to
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Who said they did?


No one, but if you're going to equate NBA talent to NCAAT performance shouldn't you list all the schools, all the number of NBA players and not just pick the ones that make Jones look bad?

And if NBA talent is so important to the overall success of a team then how come Ky hasn't won any titles with all those NBA players? Why hasn't Kansas won titles? And how could Villanova win with so few NBA types?

It's a discussion, and why leave out all the facts that are pertinent?

BTW, I believe we all know why Jones has struggled and it's not just because of talent. It's not race(that statement was ridiculous). It's not inexperience.

Jones is a nice guy, an LSU man, but he's not a top notch college coach by any measure. People that follow the team see that. People that pay attention and watch the NCAAT can easily see the difference in what top coaching brings to the table.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25544 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 11:13 am to
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We were not good this year


We weren't. Doesn't mean we weren't talented. We still had the guy being hyped as the next Lebron James, as well as two other pro prospects, and a senior leader who could shoot.

Dwayne Wade got his team to the final four with a bunch of nobodies. They couldnt' even make the tourney the next year after only losing Wade.

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Ive never once said this. Please show me this post.


You've said many times why don't we give criticism to Les like we do Johnny, which is just retarded b/c the criticism for Les is 100xs greater.

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I want Nikki Caldwell fired and she looks black to me.


No one cares about woman sports first off, and she's not a good coach obviously.

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The issue is, yall think im saying something in regards to white people which I am not. Ive not mentioned anything in regards of white people.



So are you calling everyone racist for over criticizing JJ b/c he's black? i didn't think you could be black and criticize a black person and it be considered racist.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39980 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 11:31 am to
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Thats the way I feel, you feel differently. Doesnt make either of us right.

Nope. You are objectively wrong.
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