re: LSU a number 3 seed in the dance?

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Will have to win out and I don't think our RPI will be enough to get a 3!I think we are looking at a 5!

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Umm, our RPI right now is ~30. Thats a 7 seed based right now on our second worst credentials. (Worse being SOS out of conference.)

But you add in: conference champ (as of right now) and ending the season on a huge win streak (as of today) and that bumps us up to a 5 seed or so if the season ended today.

If you add in a higher RPI when the season ends (top 15 which will happen if we run the table through the tournament) and the worst we can possibly get if we win the rest of our games is a 4 seed. With the chances of a 2 seed being much higher than getting a 4.

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I like your optimism, but I don't see it...nobody we play in the next 2 weeks will really boost the RPI...even if we keep winning, I can't see an RPI higher than 20...5 seed.

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The numbers have already been crunched by two different people that I've seen, one a poster here on TDs. If we win out we will be top 15 RPI.

Even if we are only RPI 20, that would be a 5 seed if they ONLY looked at RPI, which they don't. They also look at how teams finish, and LSU would have the best finish in the nation, one of the best in the last few years. The committee themselves have said in years past how important finishing the last third of the season is.

Even a RPI of ~20 + a huge win streak (that including us winning out through the tourney) + a regular season and a conference title would equal at least a 4 seed. But, again, it looks like our RPI in such a scenario would climb even higher than 20.

There isn't a chance in hell of a 2 seed. A 3 seed is an extreme long shot even at 30-4. Our SOS and non-conference resume *blows*. Period.

Compare to teams with similar resumes last year.

Wisconsin: 11 RPI, 29-4 record, Won Big-10, #61 SOS, 6-4 vs Top 50 RPI. Received a 3 seed.

Butler: 17 RPI, 29-3 record, Won Horizon League, #128 SOS, 1-1 vs Top 50 RPI. Received a 7 seed.

Kent State: 22 RPI, 28-6 record, Won MAC, #111 SOS, 2-2 vs Top 50 RPI. Received a 9 seed.

LSU right now:
- 31 RPI
- SOS 0.5287 - #103 in country
- Non-conference SOS .2870 - #323 (out of 341!)
- 3 and 3 vs Top 50 RPI

We don't have a Top 50 team remaining on our schedule. We can probably get our RPI into the teens, but the committee looks at a whole lot more than just rankings or RPI, and we don't have it. Our resume was a lot better in 2006 (13 RPI, 13 SOS, 25 non-conf SOS, 5-6 vs Top 50), and we only got a 4 seed.

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There isn't a chance in hell of a 2 seed. A 3 seed is an extreme long shot even at 30-4.

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I call bullshite,

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We don't have a Top 50 team remaining on our schedule.

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We might play THREE top 50 teams in the SEC tourney

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Our resume was a lot better in 2006 (13 RPI, 13 SOS, 25 non-conf SOS, 5-6 vs Top 50), and we only got a 4 seed.

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You didn't give any examples of teams that won both their conference and tournament with 4 losses and had a 15 game winning streak

I'll say it again. LSU is 0-3 against non-conference teams with an RPI in the top 100 (Utah, Xavier, Texas A&M). LSU's best non-conference win came against Washington St (RPI 102). Playing in a down league this season, LSU isn't going to automatically get a high seed just for winning the SEC. What they did out of conference will weigh heavily and LSU has only played three non-conference opponents in the top 100 and they have lost all of those games. These numbers were updated Sunday night by collegerpi.com, so yes, Wazzu's win over UCLA is included. LSU's strength of schedule is 112, and I think you will be hard pressed to find a three seed in recent memory who has had a SOS rating that low. It is why LSU has an RPI of 33, behind teams like Cal, Oklahoma St, BYU, Dayton, Utah St, and Siena. As for those of you talking about LSU being currently ranked #18 and having a great chance to move up. The AP and USA Today rankings have absolutely zero effect on the selection and seeding process.

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you will be hard pressed to find a three seed in recent memory who has had a SOS rating that low.

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In 2006, Gonzaga brought their 29-4, 4-4 against RPI top 50, 95 SOS-having-asses into the NCAA tourney as a 3 seed.

If LSU wins the SEC tourney, their SOS is gonna get a nice bump. UK, Vandy, AU, and probably 3 strong SEC East teams will do wonders for LSU's RPI. Their SOS would be in the 80s at worst.

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In 2006, Gonzaga brought their 29-4, 4-4 against RPI top 50, 95 SOS-having-asses into the NCAA tourney as a 3 seed.

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Yes, but you're talking about Gonzaga who has been pretty good as of late and they were 0.500 vs good competition. LSU has yet to beat anyone in the RPI top 50 and history indicates that conference tourneys don't do much for seeding.

Auburn's RPI: 87
Vandy's RPI: 97

As for Gonzaga in the year refered to previously when they got a 3 seed. They had non-conference wins against Maryland, Michigan St, Washington St, and Oklahoma St. Gonzaga went undefeated in conference play, which is obviously where their SOS number was hurt. Their three regular season losses (the 4th you counted was a 2 point loss in the Sweet 16 to UCLA) were to UConn by 2, at Washington by 4, and at Memphis by 11. Their body of work much, much more impressive than LSU's this season.

No, Gonzaga won the WCC tourney that year and went into the NCAAs with a 27-3 record, better than LSU's this year so I am baffled at how you say LSU has a better record. They played more top 50 teams and beat more top 50 teams than LSU this year. LSU doesn't have a regular season game left against a team with an RPI in the top 50, only Kentucky has one better than 87. According to collegerpi.com LSU's SOS is 112, at best it will be around the 95 Gonzaga had come selection Sunday. So I don't know how you can say LSU has played or will play a harder schedule.