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re: Logical LSU fan check in thread.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:16 pm to The Godfather
Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:16 pm to The Godfather
Yea you both are full of shite
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:20 pm to TigerFan4040
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Some of you people on here are absolute idiots.
Some of you people on here are absolute idiots.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:24 pm to TigerFan4040
It's been a week of overreacting for sure.
I remain slightly optimistic.
If Ms State looks bad at Georgia and/or we look bad vs Syracuse then I will be worried
I remain slightly optimistic.
If Ms State looks bad at Georgia and/or we look bad vs Syracuse then I will be worried
Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:27 pm to TigerFan4040
There's definitely some knee jerking going on...especially right after the game and among those with preconceived notions.
However, that kind of loss was not only unexpected, it arguably ranks among the worst ever.
That said, it is only one game and it is early in the season, so it's reasonable to hope for better outcomes later on. How much better?
And I'll go with about 50% on the just shite posting metric...
However, that kind of loss was not only unexpected, it arguably ranks among the worst ever.
That said, it is only one game and it is early in the season, so it's reasonable to hope for better outcomes later on. How much better?
And I'll go with about 50% on the just shite posting metric...
Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:30 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Mississippi State's biggest win against a ranked team since 1943 LSU's worst loss to an unranked opponent since 1942 LSU's worst loss to Mississippi State ever
We are trending the wrong way
Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:44 pm to Open Your Eyes
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Wisconsin has not had to suffer a rebuild with a new HC and new OC, as you guaranteed they would.
I love douchebags like you who cant have actual conversations with people on this site without your little quips. I didn't guarantee anything (and don't give a flying frick about Wisconsin for that matter). What I care about is LSU football.
I just realized where we differ in this conversation, in your opinion (I am assuming here) you think rebuilding automatically means 6+ losses and a complete failure of a season. For me, (I would hope) that rebuilding at LSU would look like 3-4 losses and some ugly, undisciplined football (which we could easily see this year).
The reason I would consider 3-4 losses as "rebuilding" in a logical manner is because I would consider it incredibly Illogical to think a new HC/OC could come in and win 11 games and make the playoffs in year 1.
I think its LOGICAL to expect some speed bumps in order to achieve real success (which to me is SEC Championships and Playoff Appearances). If that isn't "Logical" to you, I am not sure how to be more clear.
Again, let me qualify all of the above with the fact that I am not a Coach O sunshine pumper and truly am not confident that he is/isn't the man for the job.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:46 pm to The Godfather
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Yeah, all the people still supporting this hire is pretty disturbing
Agreed.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:48 pm to TigerFan4040
If despising the O hire from the beginning based on his past is illogical, then I would love to hear why. He is exactly who we thought he was.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:51 pm to Knight of Old
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That said, it is only one game and it is early in the season, so it's reasonable to hope for better outcomes later on.
Is this just a symptom of denial that is still plaguing so many of you? It's not logical at all. We already have a lot of history of how O performs. You are choosing to ignore it. You are like Charlie Brown with Lucy. Lucy has pulled the football away from you when you've tried to kick it on numerous occasions. She did it again last week, and yet you're still actively choosing to think that it will get better and things will change.
It's mind blowing.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:56 pm to Mo Jeaux
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It's mind blowing
I honestly can't understand it. O is so clearly out of his element. As he attempts to fix things, the team will have more and more of his fingerprint on him, and the team will get worse. We have a proven track record of how terrible he is. I just don't understand where the support comes from.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:53 pm to Gulf Coast Tiger
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If Ms State looks bad at Georgia and/or we look bad vs Syracuse then I will be worried
Although UGA had some bad losses at home last year, I find it hard to believe MSU can bring that effort and caliber of play 2 weeks in a row, especially on the road. LSU didn't exactly obliterate Syracuse in 2015, they may not look great this weekend, either.
This site is eaten up with entitled blow hards, sifting through the shite it appears some believe it takes an OL 3 years in a program to learn how to pass block. Losing Teuhema and the ongoing DL decimation isn't going to end well, but this was going to be a year of transition regardless. Baseball practice starts 10-1, yay!
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:55 pm to TigerFan4040
Don't read just post. It's easier.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:56 pm to weptiger
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Unfortunately, we are going to have to muddle through. I hope O, staff and players can turn this around, but am not optimistic that it will occur.
We don't need the program ran into the ground before we make a move though.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:57 pm to TigerFan4040
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Check in if you think 95% of the shite posted on trant the past few days has been completely insane, embarrassing, and illogical shitposting.
This has been pretty bad - for "Fire O" threads to be 2/3 up to almost 100% of the first page threads for pushing 72 hours.
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I am trying to gauge whether or not I'm crazy and/or need to check out until the crazies go back to whatever rock they came from under.
I think it will settle down tomorrow afternoon or Thursday. Nobody really cares about Syracuse, but, of course, if the game is an ugly win or worse, the board will be unreadable again for days. A convincing win might calm things down again until the next SEC game.
But, once the SEC schedule heats up - this place is going to be a rough ride. Many of the negas who wanted Miles gone are now having buyer's remorse. They got confused into thinking their anger and fandom gave them a say so in the replacement.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:58 pm to tirebiter
The big elephant in the room that none of the "oh my god over reactions" "oh my god it's just one game" "he needs time to get his players in" crowd can adequately address is O's time at Ole Miss. He isn't a blank slate as a coach. He arrived at the jobs in very similar circumstances --a long time successful head coach had started to slide--, he excited a bunch of hype by saying all the right things and coming up with catchy sayings to appeal to the unwashed masses like "one team one heartbeat" and "tell the truth monday," and then promptly crashed and burned the moment his teams actually had to play football.
We've seen this movie before. Almost to a T, and O has shown absolutely nothing to indicate it won't end the exact same way. Why are some people treating him like there's no prior history?
We've seen this movie before. Almost to a T, and O has shown absolutely nothing to indicate it won't end the exact same way. Why are some people treating him like there's no prior history?
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:59 pm to boweswi05
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We don't need the program ran into the ground before we make a move though.
When a 77% winning coach is fired and a "heaven and earth" effort isn't made to replace him, what makes you think the "next" move will be better - particularly if O isn't given sufficient time to do it his way?
And I mean, 2017 and 2018. Period. That's the deal. You can't fricking change head coaches game to game. That's lunacy. The negas finally got rid of Les. This is the cost of that change.
Deal with it.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:05 pm to TigerFan4040
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I love douchebags like you who cant have actual conversations with people on this site without your little quips.
So I'm a douchebag with quips because you suck at making logical arguments?
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I didn't guarantee anything
So you didn't say these 2 things in another thread?
"Promote a new guy to HC and OC in ANY program and there will be "rebuilding""
"Honestly, in what universe will having a new HC and OC NOT HAVE GROWING PAINS?"
Or you did say them and don't know what guarantee means?
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and don't give a flying frick about Wisconsin for that matter
You cared enough about them to look up their record under Paul chryst and get one of them wrong, which actually takes more effort than getting them right.
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What I care about is LSU football.
You and plenty other of non-logical people, sure.
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I just realized where we differ in this conversation, in your opinion (I am assuming here) you think rebuilding automatically means 6+ losses and a complete failure of a season. For me, (I would hope) that rebuilding at LSU would look like 3-4 losses and some ugly, undisciplined football (which we could easily see this year).
No No no. We differ in that one of us knows what a logical argument is and is capable of making one. The other person is you.
I know "rebuilding" is a relative term that means different things to different programs. And I know Paul chryst having a better record in his first 2 years than Wisconsin averaged in its previous 9 years is an example of him, at worst, maintaining an already successful program, not rebuilding it.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:10 pm to TigerFan4040
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Team playing with no heart, concerning.
O said this week of practice was "lethargic". Coaching issue.
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We are failing to execute when given the opportunity for big plays, concerning.
Players and a coaching issue. Lethargic practices being tolerated doesn't help.
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We are incredibly un-disciplined, concerning.
Coaching
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Our OL/DL are getting blown off the ball, concerning.
Coaching and recruiting. And our HC was the DL coach previously as well as head recruiter.
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To name a few quickies.
you could have just said "LSU hired the wrong HC".
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:12 pm to tigerfan88
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The big elephant in the room that none of the "oh my god over reactions" "oh my god it's just one game" "he needs time to get his players in" crowd can adequately address is O's time at Ole Miss.
frick it, man, that's the past. He's not Ole Miss' coach - he's ours. WE hired him. You and I didn't have a say so, but we hired him to coach our team. You can't fire the HC every time the team loses a game. That's the opposite of how to do it.
Now, would I have liked Jimbo? Sure. We didn't get him. He's a P5 head coach at a team he's already won a championship. That's crazy talk. We're not going to get that guy.
Would Gundy have been better? Probably. We'll never know because our AD won't negotiate and won't bid for talent. I'm not making attacks, that's what the fricking guy said. And that's what you get when you take that position. I was optimistic that it might work in keeping the foundation solid - I still am, but like others, I am underwhelmed by Canada's offense so far.
I wanted a Briles Power/smashmouth spread or equivalent. I felt that was the right way for LSU to get into that sort of offense. We went with Canada's motion/misdirection offense which appears, now, to be just smoke and mirrors.
Hope I'm wrong and it all works out.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:13 pm to Ace Midnight
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And I mean, 2017 and 2018. Period. That's the deal. You can't fricking change head coaches game to game. That's lunacy. The negas finally got rid of Les. This is the cost of that change.
Deal with it.
I didn't want Les gone if I knew Alleva would hire CEO.
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