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re: Les Miles takes a shot at Joe Alleva

Posted on 10/4/17 at 6:43 pm to
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21309 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 6:43 pm to
I’m loving this man. I cannot believe we fired him for Ed fricking Orgeron
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15893 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

or we could hire a competent, qualified AD this time around?

Les shouldn't necessarily be the top pick, but successful coaches have become successful ADs. Obviously Skip, Broyles, Dooley and Bo, just to name a few.

Given the university's current administration, they could easily hire another seemingly qualified suit that ends up being incompetent, too.
Posted by Lebowski
Dallas
Member since Oct 2013
3544 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 6:48 pm to
Alleva didn't lead it Stanley Jacobs of the BOS did.

Alleva is still a POS
Posted by roger79
Welcome Home, Scott
Member since Dec 2012
3226 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:09 pm to
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But the man knew how to run a program and never threw a player or an assistant coach under the bus


Not true. A lot of revisionist history going on here. Read the sixth paragraph of this link below. Sounds to me like a guy blaming his players.

LINK


I'm anti-O, too, but let's not act like Miles was Bear Bryant. It was time for him to go. You want to be mad Alleva screwed things up and treated Miles poorly, fine. But don't be so stupid as to think this program wouldn't be in trouble had Miles stayed.

There are depth issues at key positions because of lack of roster management by Miles. And he refused to improve the offense in part because of very poor QB recruiting and development.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 7:11 pm
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76290 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:39 pm to
Les was an excellent head coach, he just had that one problem with developing a passing game. Which was a pretty big problem.
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36808 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:02 pm to
Les had a proven record as a shitty QB evaluator and O.C. evaluator. He refused to change. His decisions doomed him.
Anyone wishing he was still here doesn't want to win.
Posted by TakingStock
Member since Jun 2009
6091 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:09 pm to
Les may become the next Barry Alvarez,
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
10200 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:31 pm to
How sweet it would be if Les could lead to Alleva getting fired!
Posted by LSU49er
Bastrop, LA
Member since Aug 2017
664 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:55 pm to
Les couldn't have said this... there's no uh's after every three words...
Posted by JazzyJeff
Japan
Member since Sep 2006
3938 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:13 pm to
quote:

Joe is a snake. It was time for miles to go but instead of being a man in he situation he completely botched the whole process across 2 1/2 seasons and torched the relationship with the most prominent coach in LSU history
Joe A caved in to media pressure. If he would have fired Miles at the end of the '15 season, he would have been crucified by the media; so he blinked, caved in, and here we are.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57479 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:28 pm to
Where can I find a link to this Les pod cast?
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36903 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

I really enjoyed that tweet.....I enjoyed having Les.... It was time for him to go as the coach, but I enjoyed that guy


I was thinking about it today. I 100% agree it was time for Les to go. But I said it here when Orgeron was hired, for the people that thought a monkey could run this program and have the same success as Les we are about to find out. I don't hate Orgeron, I don't hate anyone that reaches for the best. I just really hated the hire.

Basically, the people that always thought Les was just a fool that lucked into a good situation should be real quiet about Les these days.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68593 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:37 pm to
quote:

Will never understand why alleva leaked to the press he was going to fire miles.


3 games left in the season, team came out and played like he had just been fired. That's some sabotage rt there. Let's not forget the changing of chavis contract.

frick Alleva.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68593 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:42 pm to
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If he would have fired Miles at the end of the '15 season, he would have been crucified by the media; so he blinked, caved in, and here we are.


Joe works in the shadows. So yeah, instead of firing Miles at the end of 15, they put a lame duck coach in and fired him anyway. Know why the team played a little better? Well, they played some soft arse teams and were finally able to play loose. Not walk on egg shells.

You don't win 112 games in 11 seasons and suck.

Think about it, you just fired a guy that did something only one other coach could do in the history of your program and replaced him with Ed Orgeron. And most of you dumbasses ate this shite up, lauded Alleva a hero.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 11:44 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68593 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:00 am to
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Not true. A lot of revisionist history going on here. Read the sixth paragraph of this link below. Sounds to me like a guy blaming his players.


This was after it was leaked by LSU that he was going to be fired. With SEC games left on the schedule. He had lost to the national title winners away from home. Seriously? O lost to fricking Troy. Troy!!! This is how Les was delt, tried to be pushed out after losing 1 fricking game that season.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33477 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:05 am to
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But I said it here when Orgeron was hired, for the people that thought a monkey could run this program and have the same success as Les we are about to find out. I don't hate Orgeron, I don't hate anyone that reaches for the best. I just really hated the hire.

Basically, the people that always thought Les was just a fool that lucked into a good situation should be real quiet about Les these days.


My thoughts exactly. Very well said.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22939 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:08 am to
Always respected the hell out of Miles.
Posted by GuiceTheGreat
Member since Sep 2017
459 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:18 am to
All you have to do is simply look at joe alleva, and you automatically know the guy is an undeniable tool. He has no business being the AD at a program like LSU.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27898 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:26 am to
quote:

and never threw a player or an assistant coach under the bus

Lets not get carried away. Les threw lots of people under the bus in his unorthodox way
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31013 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 1:27 am to
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the people that always thought Les was just a fool that lucked into a good situation should be real quiet about Les these days.



1000% agree.



He wasn't perfect and he'd admit that, something the current HC is incapable of doing.


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