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les miles cant develop talent??
Posted on 9/9/10 at 6:18 am
Posted on 9/9/10 at 6:18 am
Just sitting here and wondering where this talk comes from? Who in the hell has the mighty Saban developed to make it to the NFL so much more than Miles?? Al Woods was recently cut from the saints so that just goes to show that he was probably a bust from the get go not Miles fault and surely your not stating that Sean Payton cant develop talent. Heres a few Miles players in the league. B. Lafell(will be starting this year as a rookie), Laron Landry (two with Saban two with Miles), Dwayne Bowe, Matt Flynn, word is still out on Tyson Jackson&Glenn Dorsey. Ali Highsmith and Perry Riley are still on teams climbing up the depth chart.Any others that I missed? Just my opinion tell me yalls
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Posted on 9/9/10 at 6:31 am to nwaLSUfan
I really don't care about developing talent for the NFL. I'm more concerned with getting the most out of the talent available to the coach while the kids are at LSU. Miles hasn't been a complete bust in that regatd but his track record isn't all that impressive either.
Comparing Miles to Saban in any aspect of coaching is ridiculous.
Comparing Miles to Saban in any aspect of coaching is ridiculous.
Posted on 9/9/10 at 6:41 am to Jay Quest
Don't misunderstand I am not against the original post but if you recruit talent even if you can't develop talent you will put players in the NFL.
Posted on 9/9/10 at 6:45 am to Jay Quest
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Comparing Miles to Saban in any aspect of coaching is ridiculous.
Ya, Saban never went 8-5 or 9-3.
Oops, er, uh.
Posted on 9/9/10 at 6:51 am to nwaLSUfan
Just go back and look the draft results and projections.
Or hell, just look at our team. There might be 4 guys on this team that are pros.
Dorsey and Jackson are busts, btw.
Saban kicks Miles's arse on linemen alone.
Or hell, just look at our team. There might be 4 guys on this team that are pros.
Dorsey and Jackson are busts, btw.
Saban kicks Miles's arse on linemen alone.
Posted on 9/9/10 at 7:50 am to TigerSpy
Miles isnt terible but he is not in sabans league, i dont like saban for the way he left LSU but the dude is a better coach by far, Miles is average at best anyone can see that
Posted on 9/9/10 at 7:52 am to TigerSpy
I guess Mel Kiper is just stupid listing Drake Nevis and PP in his top 10. I think RR, KS and RS will be top 2 round picks as well. That is just 5 off the top of my head, but oh well, I guess you know better.
Posted on 9/9/10 at 7:56 am to TigerSpy
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There might be 4 guys on this team that are pros.
Wow.
Posted on 9/9/10 at 8:05 am to nwaLSUfan
You need to check out all the Tigers on NFL Rosters....plenty are Sabans players. I am not a Miles hater, but you are probably not going to win this debate.
Posted on 9/9/10 at 8:11 am to nwaLSUfan
LM is clearly inferior to NS at developing talent. Quite simply, LM is not enough of a prick to demand perfection out of everyone around him like NS.
Posted on 9/9/10 at 8:21 am to nwaLSUfan
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Al Woods was recently cut from the saints so that just goes to show that he was probably a bust from the get go not Miles fault
Yeah! Its not Les's fault he recruited him
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Laron Landry
are you fricking kidding me? You honestly think he got more coaching the 2 years with Miles instead of the 2 years with Saban? Who by the way is a db coach.
Posted on 9/9/10 at 8:22 am to tjohn deaux
Think about it this way!!
Lesticles is very successful in recruiting and getting the talent to BTR!!
However not many continue to progress each year at LSU and become that dominant figure all thought they would be.
IMHO when one talks about developing players, we should be concerned with how ell they do for the 4-5 years they are at LSU. The pro deal is a different animal.
RR and RS are perfect examples ( and we could name many more)...they are not a huge part of the offense ( yet hopefully) therefore are not as much of a threat as a JJ at Bama.
I am not sure Lesticles takes them to that next level to get them ready for the pros.
Lesticles is very successful in recruiting and getting the talent to BTR!!
However not many continue to progress each year at LSU and become that dominant figure all thought they would be.
IMHO when one talks about developing players, we should be concerned with how ell they do for the 4-5 years they are at LSU. The pro deal is a different animal.
RR and RS are perfect examples ( and we could name many more)...they are not a huge part of the offense ( yet hopefully) therefore are not as much of a threat as a JJ at Bama.
I am not sure Lesticles takes them to that next level to get them ready for the pros.
Posted on 9/9/10 at 8:29 am to TigerSpy
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there might be 4 Wide receivers on this team that are pros.
FIFY
This post was edited on 9/9/10 at 8:31 am
Posted on 9/9/10 at 8:42 am to JaxTigah
Hell when saban was here the Patriots alone drafted a good number of our guys cause those NFL coaches respect Saban and his ability to get the most out of his players. He's hands on and teaches advanced techniques...something we dont have now...add in that he has a good eye for talent...
Posted on 9/9/10 at 8:52 am to TigerFan55555
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Saban and his ability to get the most out of his players
So your saying Satan's players get drafted because they have reached their potential and NFL coaches don't want players with big upsides?
Posted on 9/9/10 at 8:53 am to nwaLSUfan
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Who in the hell has the mighty Saban developed to make it to the NFL so much more than Miles??
So incredibly lame...
Posted on 9/9/10 at 8:55 am to coontiger
Is it truly CLM that is teaching and instructing, or is it the Position coaches? I think Porter and McCarthy were lacking, Wilson and Gonzo are definately upgrades. Pelini was strong during his tenure, and I think the results indicate such. The Malveto debacle is a large part of Woods's production, not to mention the likelyhood Woods ranking out of highschool was based on Single A talent performance and not SEC D1 opponents. Looks like Gonzo has Shep on track to be something really special, and Cooper / Chief are working towards something special with PP7 and the youngsters. The two glaring holes are OL (CLM added BWilkerson) and QB - CLM has NEVER said he was "Spurrier in a Hat. "
Honestly, even though CLM was able to bring in top 10 classes, I think the level of talent recruited for the O-Line and at QB was raw at best, more likely sub-par, evidenced by the lack of depth at these positions.
Stud and Crowton have been crushed by the blog-boards, and the fruits of their abilities (or lack thereof) are unfortunately proving them correct.
Honestly, even though CLM was able to bring in top 10 classes, I think the level of talent recruited for the O-Line and at QB was raw at best, more likely sub-par, evidenced by the lack of depth at these positions.
Stud and Crowton have been crushed by the blog-boards, and the fruits of their abilities (or lack thereof) are unfortunately proving them correct.
Posted on 9/9/10 at 8:57 am to coontiger
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RR and RS are perfect examples ( and we could name many more)...they are not a huge part of the offense ( yet hopefully) therefore are not as much of a threat as a JJ at Bama.
JJ had 43 touches and 4 TD his sophmore year at Bama.
RR AND RS are poised to blow the doors off of this even at the PUTRID pace of the O against the UNC D.
Yet another example of some strange arse perception to cloud the hell out of reality.
(and before the "the doubled JJ" excuses come flying out...Maze had 31 catches ALL last year.)
Posted on 9/9/10 at 8:59 am to omegaman66
Your not reaching at all are you? Pretty sure he is saying they would rather a player who is more developed and not a huge project.
Posted on 9/9/10 at 9:01 am to Tiger n Chains
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So incredibly lame...
Talking about Saban period is lame, with the exception of the week of Bama-LSU game.
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