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re: Les Miles = Jimmy Johnson
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:25 pm to OFWHAP
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:25 pm to OFWHAP
i don't think miami's record improved when he was there and he left them in worse shape when he left. who know's what he would have done, no one and that is because he tucked tail and ran from his failure.
one thing i will forever be thankful of saban for is his passing of drew brees. i will gladly take this "horrible" 5 year run with Miles to get brees.
one thing i will forever be thankful of saban for is his passing of drew brees. i will gladly take this "horrible" 5 year run with Miles to get brees.
This post was edited on 12/9/09 at 5:28 pm
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Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:25 pm to noonan
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good college coaches don't always make good pro coaches.
Yah but usually the good college coaches still get an offer to go pro.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:26 pm to The Boat
and, apparently, jerry jones is interested in Les Miles...stay tuned...
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:28 pm to Glacierbengal
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When somebody compares Miles to Coker, it is a red flag that they don't know what they are talking about.
I made this thread to make fun of those that compare Miles to Coker. I don't actually believe what I wrote in this thread, but it's funny that the similarities between Miles and Johnson are closer than Miles and Coker.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:31 pm to OFWHAP
I don't think any group outside of our fan base would favorably compare Les Miles to Jimmy Johnson.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:49 pm to JohnnyT
until miles wins a few more BIG games it seems like there is little debate over who is better..
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:50 pm to The Boat
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I can't believe LSU fans have become so blinded by hate
It looks to me like the blindness would be in your love for him. There is no overwhelming hatred of Les Miles. Quite the contrary, most fans really like Les Miles as a person, though not necessarily as a coach, anymore.
Certainly the numbers are comparable, but that is where it ends.
The issue with Miles is not his record, or the hatred for him. It is quite simply, that he is paid commensurate with the top coaches in the country; however, the product on the field does not appear to be well coached at all. In a nutshell, we are paying for a Ferrari, and are getting an economy sedan.
Top coaches shouldn't have to learn how to manage a clock. Any idiot can figure out when to call a timeout. Come on, this is not rocket science. I can recall at least 4 times off the top of my head, that Miles has made a clock decision that could only be classified is confounding.
1. Ole Miss this year, nuff said there.
2. Georgia this year. End of the first half, we let the clock run down without burning our timeouts or trying to advance the ball into closer field goal range. Halftime interview makes it look as if Miles did not realize we had timeouts left, or he thought it was 4th down, which it was not.
3. Auburn 2007. We are in field goal range, but almost let time run out by throwing a long pass for a TD, when only a FG was necessary. Flynn takes the blame for an audible. Who's in charge? We come away with the win, but does anybody really think we did the smart thing here?
4. Early in Miles first season, I can't recall if it was Arizona State or Tennessee, he frantically calls a timeout after we intercept the ball. WHY???? The clock was already stopped.
This is elementary stuff. How can he continually screw this stuff up? This is not 4 million a year coaching. I don't care what his record is, it doesn't matter.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:53 pm to LJBurton
Maybe you should read:
But you've probably been cooking up that essay for a long time now and wasn't able to see I typed that.
quote:
I made this thread to make fun of those that compare Miles to Coker. I don't actually believe what I wrote in this thread
But you've probably been cooking up that essay for a long time now and wasn't able to see I typed that.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:55 pm to The Boat
I know JJ pretty well and, I'm sorry, I have never heard about Miles working 24/7 and so dedicated to winning his wife left him.
I would say Saban is more like JJ than LM is.
Miles is a much more normal person than either one.
I would say Saban is more like JJ than LM is.
Miles is a much more normal person than either one.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:59 pm to The Boat
players got better under Jimmy Johnson or they GTFO'd. Simple as that. I don't see the same progression under les.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:59 pm to The Boat
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But you've probably been cooking up that essay for a long time now and wasn't able to see I typed that
Anything in that "essay" you care to refute?
I don't understand how a top tier coach can continually foul up basic decisions. This is stuff any average fan could handle. How come he can't?
Posted on 12/9/09 at 6:07 pm to LJBurton
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Anything in that "essay" you care to refute?
Yes
quote:
Top coaches shouldn't have to learn how to manage a clock. Any idiot can figure out when to call a timeout.
Is Mac Brown a top coach?
Posted on 12/9/09 at 6:14 pm to The Boat
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I can't believe LSU fans have become so blinded by hate
And what leads you to believe all who post "hate" here are LSU fans?
I think you might be surprised at the # of pretenders.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 6:19 pm to Lonnie4LSU
I don't think saying Miles has lost the inability of late to win the big game is hate. I think its fact. Next season will be the litmus test on Miles career so far. Also, beating Penn St. will not hurt.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 6:47 pm to The Boat
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Les Miles = Jimmy Johnson
Posted on 12/9/09 at 6:52 pm to noonan
Cough cough HOLTZ cough
Posted on 12/9/09 at 7:30 pm to The Boat
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Anything in that "essay" you care to refute?
Yes
Such as?
quote:
Is Mac Brown a top coach?
Clearly, No. Having said that, not following Texas football closely, I need to rely on what I hear and read. Also, I don't know if this was a one-time mistake, or if he has a history of fouling up the clock. Either way, Mack Brown is not a top tier coach. I would say, he is, at best, an average coach, who benefits from a great recruiting base. Texas will always field teams with a lot of talent. This seems to be the consensus opinion on Mack Brown.
Again, what in my post can you refute?
This post was edited on 12/9/09 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 12/9/09 at 7:40 pm to LJBurton
How is a coach that's 128-26 and a national title at his school not a top coach? He even won a lot when he was at North Carolina. 
Posted on 12/9/09 at 7:41 pm to PiscesTiger
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Tha Boat, simply no.
Hit and miss I guess. I got it with the Jefferson-Russell 05 thread. But I did say
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I made this thread to make fun of those that compare Miles to Coker. I don't actually believe what I wrote in this thread
This wasn't a serious thread. ARGHH!
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