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Les Miles = Jimmy Johnson
Posted on 12/9/09 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 12/9/09 at 4:56 pm
Jimmy Johnson is considered a pretty good coach, is he not? Let's check out the similarities. Both started off at Oklahoma State. Miles actually had a better record at OSU. Both have one national championship. Both have one 12 win season, two 11 win seasons, after the bowl win both will have one 10 win season, and both have one 8 win season in the five years both either have been or were at their school. Les Miles is 4-0 in bowl games, Jimmy Johnson is 2-3. Other than their bowl record, everything else is just about the same.
People like to make the connection of Les Miles to Larry Coker, but I think a better connection can be made to a different former Miami coach.
People like to make the connection of Les Miles to Larry Coker, but I think a better connection can be made to a different former Miami coach.
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Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:02 pm to The Boat
Doesnt Jimmy also have a Super Bowl ring?
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:03 pm to biglego
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Doesnt Jimmy also have a Super Bowl ring?
He didn't when he was at Miami.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:06 pm to The Boat
But didnt Jimmy leave Miami to go NFL, and then do well in the NFL? 
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:08 pm to biglego
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Doesnt Jimmy also have a Super Bowl ring?
Two of 'em.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:10 pm to The Boat
People run down Les Miles for a few basic things:
-Tangled up/unintelligible phraseology. There's no way he has a broadcast career after coaching like Jimmy Johnson. However, this doesn't mean he isn't a great coach, as people say the public speaking fumbles are not the same in one-on-one.
-Game/Time management issues. He showed in the Arkansas game he can fix this. However, many marvel that it had to be fixed this far into his career. This is a legitimate concern.
If he corrects the offensive scheme and disfunction of this past season, and the team matures with experience and capability, then I think people will think that he is more like Johnson than Coker. However, another few episodes like Ole Miss, and they'll be issuing him a straightjacket and running him out of town on a rail.
-Tangled up/unintelligible phraseology. There's no way he has a broadcast career after coaching like Jimmy Johnson. However, this doesn't mean he isn't a great coach, as people say the public speaking fumbles are not the same in one-on-one.
-Game/Time management issues. He showed in the Arkansas game he can fix this. However, many marvel that it had to be fixed this far into his career. This is a legitimate concern.
If he corrects the offensive scheme and disfunction of this past season, and the team matures with experience and capability, then I think people will think that he is more like Johnson than Coker. However, another few episodes like Ole Miss, and they'll be issuing him a straightjacket and running him out of town on a rail.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:14 pm to HONDEAUX
Jimmy had 11 win seasons when you only played 11 games. The U played a pretty tough schedule back then. And if this is true, shouldn't Miles be leaving for the NFL about now? 
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:15 pm to LSUinMA
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Two of 'em.
Jimmy has 2 super bowl rings on top of his college success. I don't think any NFL teams are looking to nab Les Miles. I guess that could say something right there.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:15 pm to Simplemaaan
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And if this is true, shouldn't Miles be leaving for the NFL about now?
+1
Thats the point I was trying to make.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:15 pm to The Boat
Johnson's 8-win season was his first season. He then had a two-loss season, two one-loss seasons, and an undefeated season. He played in back-to-back national championship games, losing one.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:16 pm to The Boat
I can't believe LSU fans have become so blinded by hate. 
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:18 pm to Simplemaaan
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shouldn't Miles be leaving for the NFL about now?
Yeah, he's headed to Oakland so he can develop Jamarcus. . .
Maybe he could punch out an assistant, say OC, when said assistant calls pass plays when we're within field goal range with a short clock. . .
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:19 pm to Simplemaaan
I'm not sure I get the "If Les fixes this" or "If Les learns how to do this". He's 56 years old! He started coaching in 1980! Isn't he as good as he's going to get?
I don't understand why we have to endure a catastrophe like Ole Miss for our coach to "learn" to manage the clock better anyway.
I don't understand why we have to endure a catastrophe like Ole Miss for our coach to "learn" to manage the clock better anyway.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:20 pm to biglego
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I don't think any NFL teams are looking to nab Les Miles. I guess that could say something right there.
good college coaches don't always make good pro coaches.
cough cough saban cough
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:21 pm to LSUinMA
If Les hadn't fixed the clock management or the Arkansas game, he would be looking for a job right now. He had no choice but to fix the problem.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:22 pm to The Boat
When somebody compares Miles to Coker, it is a red flag that they don't know what they are talking about.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:23 pm to noonan
How do we know Saban wouldn't have worked out in the long run? JJ's first year at Dallas ended in a 1-15 record. His second was 7-9. If Saban had stuck around, I believe Miami could have gotten better, but he didn't enjoy coaching in the NFL. His couldn't fully utilize the "process."
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:23 pm to Glacierbengal
Explain Glacierbengal.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:24 pm to OFWHAP
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