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re: Kansas State guard Cam Carter commits to LSU

Posted on 3/29/24 at 12:39 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278512 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 12:39 pm to
This is peak Tigerdroppings

Guy 1: they can’t keep losing with all this talent

Guy 2: they can’t build a program with guys like this lol


Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
20509 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 12:55 pm to
What’s the point? Different people have different opinions. I certainly don’t think the team has had a lot of talent the past couple years. You can overcome that by developing a core of players, but that’s hard to do when there is a lack continuity in your key pieces.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47932 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 12:57 pm to
Maybe we can rewrite the current rules to benefit one coach.
Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
Member since Feb 2019
3382 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 1:14 pm to
Not sure how he is a downgrade from Wright. Better numbers across the board while playing in a better conference. Turnovers are a bit high but he did a good bit of facilitating so that’s somewhat expected. Hard to see how he is anything except an upgrade
This post was edited on 3/29/24 at 1:15 pm
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40584 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 1:16 pm to
And both of them are right
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278512 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 1:17 pm to
No point other then extremists being extreme
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 1:20 pm to
Our odds of making the NIT next year are looking better
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10136 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 1:29 pm to
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No point other then extremists being extreme

Neither of those points were extreme.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47932 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 1:31 pm to
You’re correct, nothing extreme about what I said. Just pointing out the pattern I’ve seen with posters since McMahon has been at LSU.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155745 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 1:56 pm to
Solid get, now need about 4-5 more
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278512 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 2:09 pm to
Both of them were extreme. You have one guy acting like they just got prime Jimmer Fredette & the other one is obvious to how CBB teams are being built in 2024.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47932 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 2:10 pm to
Agree, good player but until we start playing good basketball he could get 4-5 more and it won’t make a difference. McMahon is about 5-7 years behind what successful teams are doing and until he’s willing to grow and change this past season is close to the ceiling for LSU.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19813 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 2:26 pm to
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Not sure how he is a downgrade from Wright. Better numbers across the board while playing in a better conference. Turnovers are a bit high but he did a good bit of facilitating so that’s somewhat expected. Hard to see how he is anything except an upgrade


I guess it's debatable. Carter played about 4 min more per game than Wright. When you normalize things by Per 40 min you get this:

Wright - 19 PTS, 6.5 RB, 3.2 AST, 2.8 TO
Carter - 16.4 PTS, 5.6 RB, 2.9 AST, 3.3 TO

I guess some might see that as better numbers across the board
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28392 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

Think Jordan Wright/Jalen Cook role this year as a primary offensive initiator


If so, that is a bit of a concern. His volume offensive numbers are fine. But he was inefficient. Sub 40% FG shooting and 31% 3 point shooting to go along with 3 TOs per game isn’t good. Or at least good enough to be your primary offensive weapon.

He is a very good defender…which McMahon ABSOLUTELY needs since his teams have been awful defensively…so if you can pair him with an efficient PG it could work. If your are asking him to be “Jordan Wright” then expect another year of inefficient offense.

Not a bad pickup by any means…as long as you didn’t bring him in to be the No. 1 scoring option
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
1890 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 2:40 pm to
Man I hope some of you can get refills on your meds. To bring anything negative about bringing in a starter from a Big 12 team averaging double digits shows just how pathetic this "fan" base is. And I didn't see anyone acting like we signed some super star. I guess the stupidity will continue. Wright was a great addition to this team. So if this guy is at or better than him it's a good get.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54585 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 2:42 pm to
I like it. Good job McMahon. Good start
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

Man I hope some of you can get refills on your meds


Make sure you take your delusional medication also.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35416 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 3:25 pm to
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Everyone excited about this pickup will be claiming he has no talent once the season starts and McMahon continues to lose.
And we can count on you to call the team Uber talented full of 4 and 5 stars and therefore the only reason we aren't SEC Champs is because of coaching.
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3352 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 3:35 pm to
Meh. Can’t create shots or get to the basket as well as Mwani did for us but hopefully will defend at a higher level. If coach MM had just played Mwani more then he wouldn’t be transferring and we wouldn’t have to settle for Carter’s reduced talent.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19813 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

Man I hope some of you can get refills on your meds. To bring anything negative about bringing in a starter from a Big 12 team averaging double digits shows just how pathetic this "fan" base is. And I didn't see anyone acting like we signed some super star. I guess the stupidity will continue. Wright was a great addition to this team. So if this guy is at or better than him it's a good get.


I don't know. This thread seems pretty even-keeled for the Rant. I don't see anyone arguing that Carter isn't a solid addition. However, I'm not sure he is as good as Wright, esp. when you look at the advanced analytics; Wright has a BPR of 4.42, which is Top 250, vs. Carter's BPR of 3.1, putting him outside the Top 500. He is a solid addition but can't be the cornerstone of this transfer class. CMM still needs a couple of big hitters if LSU is to move off the NIT bubble and into the NCAA.
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