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re: Kansas State guard Cam Carter commits to LSU

Posted on 3/29/24 at 3:46 pm to
Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
Member since Feb 2019
3363 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 3:46 pm to
You are trolling right? Mwani isn’t close to the same level player as Carter.
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3319 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 3:47 pm to
I am. I just thought it was unbecoming to be positive.
This post was edited on 3/29/24 at 3:48 pm
Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
Member since Feb 2019
3363 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 3:50 pm to
I was comparing Carter’s stats to Wright’s at Vandy to compare them both as transfers. Also adjusting stats for 40 mins is not some mic drop. It has some use but it makes a lot of assumptions and ignores a lot of variables. It’s better to look at what they actually did compared to what might have been projections.
This post was edited on 3/29/24 at 3:51 pm
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
20506 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 3:57 pm to
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He is a solid addition but can't be the cornerstone of this transfer class.


I agree with this. He’s a good pick up, I just wish he had another year of eligibility to add to the core we have going with Ward, Reed, and Williams (assuming these guys all stick around).

My main frustration with this past season’s transfer class is that ones that ended up being solid contributors (Wright, Baker, and Dean) are out eligibility. It took awhile for the team to gel around the new guys and establish roles but you could see something being built. And I don’t have reason to expect much from the other transfers with remaining eligibility. Really disappointed in how things turned out with Cook.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29165 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 4:04 pm to
Really nice pickup. 3-4 more of these guys. and we can be a tournament team.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
1970 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 5:17 pm to
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justice


Holy shite you actually posted something remotely positive for once
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
1970 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 5:22 pm to
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I guess it's debatable. Carter played about 4 min more per game than Wright. When you normalize things by Per 40 min you get this:

Wright - 19 PTS, 6.5 RB, 3.2 AST, 2.8 TO
Carter - 16.4 PTS, 5.6 RB, 2.9 AST, 3.3 TO

I guess some might see that as better numbers across the board


I don't think anyone here expected Jordan Wright to assume the role and become the player that he did. Sure he had his good moments, but I don't like using per40 stats for Wright because it ignores a lot of really, really bad games that he had. Per40 will largely ignore these inefficiencies and inflate his stats via sheer volume.

BPM wise Carter was much higher defensively than Wright. His DBPM is .5 higher than anyone on LSU last year. He will come in and be the best defender on the team from day 1.

Additionally, Carter assumed a larger role at KSU than Jordan had at Vandy. Jordan was an off ball 3&D player at Vandy, Carter was a ball dominant guard. It's just bad to make that comparison. I don't think anyone wants Carter to become Jordan Wright 2.0, but he at least has had experience in that sort of role... (if McMahon unfortunately gives it to him).

I think if you surround him with spacing (something KSU didn't have) and take the ball out of his hands more often, his efficiency will go up. We already know his value on the other end of the court.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47674 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 5:26 pm to
Well that’s pretty dishonest which is on par for you but thanks for unwittingly confirming my point.
Posted by BomBayTiger
Member since Feb 2009
4117 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 6:01 pm to
Carter is a player.

Different level than Jordan Wright.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 6:22 pm to
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let him cook



Probably not the best word to reference in a basketball transfer thread
Posted by The Shaqtus
Member since Jun 2015
154 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 8:43 pm to
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McMahon is about 5-7 years behind what successful teams are doing


What is he not doing that other teams are?
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3319 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 8:47 pm to
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What is he not doing that other teams are?


We aren’t shooting enough 3’s. We need to spread everyone out to the perimeter, screen for the PG at the top, fake a drive and kick out for 3’s. Lots of them.
This post was edited on 3/29/24 at 8:51 pm
Posted by The Shaqtus
Member since Jun 2015
154 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 8:51 pm to
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We aren’t shooting enough 3’s.


Agree

quote:

We need to screen for the PG at the top


From what I saw the past 2 years, that's essentially all they do. At that point, it's up to the ball handler to make an appropriate decision
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