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re: Just to clear up something re: Cajuns' pitching rotation

Posted on 6/1/13 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 6/1/13 at 1:42 pm to
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I'm glad the're going to waste him today while they score about 14 runs.


Same. Pitching him today leaves me less worried. If LSU somehow screws the pooch, we don't have to worry about tomorrow
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 6/1/13 at 1:42 pm to
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What gives them the better chance to win the regional


winning today gives them the better chance...
Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 6/1/13 at 1:44 pm to
ULL has a great shot at winning today already without their ace

Increasing those odds and decreasing the odds for tomorrow's game does not give you a better shot at winning the regional
Posted by LSU Groupee
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Posted on 6/1/13 at 1:46 pm to
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And the exact same odds apply to the first game on Sunday.




I wonder why all teams just dont hold their ace for the regional championship game?

I guess Rob is the 1st coach to see the light of not pitching his ace untill the final game of the regional.
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 6/1/13 at 1:47 pm to
What percentage chance do you give them to beat JSU with, and without him starting?

What percentage chance do you give them to win the 2:00 Sunday with, and without him starting?

Posted by Double Oh
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Posted on 6/1/13 at 1:48 pm to
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last time we run ruled South Alabama. He has experience pitching in big games and has shown that he is a tough, gritty pitcher. It was absolutely the right move to throw him last night. He actually pitched a good game. I think the real problem was that Tony pulled him too early. For some reason, Robe has a ton of faith in Matt Hicks. Hicks started the season guns blazin' but has been terrible the second half of the year. We all knew what would happen when Hicks went in. Mayer should have been the first guy out of the pen. That was the real pitching disaster from Friday's guy. The fact of the matter is, we ran into a guy who has very good stuff who pitched probably his best game of the year. If Dex Kjerstad's shot goes another 3 feet, we tie the game up in the 9th. That's baseball, though. We were always underdogs to get out of this regional, with absolutely zero regional experience going to the best team in the country's place. Now we have to try to pick ourselves up and pull a small miracle from the loser's bracket. Good luck LSU, hopefully we get to play y'all one more time. tl;dr - The real bad pitching decision was Hicks, not Wilson.







Absolutely incorrect. The right move was to pitch Lil Robe Friday. You win the 1st one then worry about the 2nd one. Now your in the losers bracket. Bad move on Robes part. I do agree with you on Hicks dude is freakin terrible. So now Robe has butchered the bullpen and the starting rotation. Nice job Tony......
Posted by Double Oh
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Posted on 6/1/13 at 1:48 pm to
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can understand a number 1 holding back a front line pitcher against a number 4 but there isn't a great deal of difference between number 2 and a number 3. Big blunder not throwing your best last night. Then again, you're ULL and nothing more is ever expected from you.






Bingo we have a winner.......
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 6/1/13 at 1:50 pm to
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I wonder why all teams just dont hold their ace for the regional championship game?

No one has suggested he do that so I have no idea what you're talking about.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 6/1/13 at 1:51 pm to
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Increasing those odds and decreasing the odds for tomorrow's game does not give you a better shot at winning the regional


I really don't know much about either ULaLa or JSU's staffs, so I can't really say who should throw. JSU hit the ball pretty well yesterday. But you always play to win the next game in a single elimination scenario.
Posted by KennesawTiger
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Posted on 6/1/13 at 1:54 pm to
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But you always play to win the next game in a single elimination scenario.


A foreign concept for many in this thread, to be sure.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/1/13 at 1:55 pm to
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But you always play to win the next game in a single elimination scenario.


Its situational

ULL is the better team regardless who pitches, and should win regardless. THAT'S why Robicheaux should pitch tomorrow, IMO.


Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27799 posts
Posted on 6/1/13 at 1:56 pm to
I watched Bertman hold his best available starter when facing Southern in a losers' bracket game. I don't really recall anyone questioning it.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/1/13 at 1:58 pm to
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I watched Bertman hold his best available starter when facing Southern in a losers' bracket game. I don't really recall anyone questioning it.




we are not questioning Robe not pitching today we are questioning why he held his ace against a #3 seed to open the tourney
Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 6/1/13 at 1:58 pm to
I believe Ole Miss is holding their ace for tomorrow, and they are coming out of the losers bracket.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/1/13 at 1:59 pm to
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we are not questioning Robe not pitching today


last few pages were about Robe not pitching today
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/1/13 at 2:00 pm to
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The right move was to pitch Lil Robe Friday. You win the 1st one then worry about the 2nd one. Now your in the losers bracket.


Oh no---haven't you heard?

There is a new goal to a regional. You save your ace for the championship game because thats the only game that matters when your goal is to win the regional.

Hey, your ace doesnt even have to show up at the park untill the Sunday game when your only goal is to win the regional.









I kid---I kid.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/1/13 at 2:02 pm to
Come on dude

You don't go into the regional with the intention of saving your ace on Sunday.

If you're the better team, and are in the losers bracket..then you do it.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27799 posts
Posted on 6/1/13 at 2:03 pm to
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we are not questioning Robe not pitching today we are questioning why he held his ace against a #3 seed to open the tourney

Actually a lot of people are saying he absolutely must start today, and their starter wasn't the reason they lost last night.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/1/13 at 2:04 pm to
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ULL is the better team regardless who pitches, and should win regardless. THAT'S why Robicheaux should pitch tomorrow, IMO.


as I said, I don't know anything about the staff, so I'm not making a specific judgement. If you have a pitcher you're confident can get the job done, the strategy is a good one. If you're in the mode of scraping together a win just hoping to get to tomorrow, it's a mistake. Play today's game today, worry about tomorrow after the game.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/1/13 at 2:06 pm to
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believe Ole Miss is holding their ace for tomorrow, and they are coming out of the losers bracket.







they stupid......
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