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re: Joe Alleva to be targeted by Penn State per Moscona

Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:49 pm to
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:49 pm to
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I just wonder if any university likes their athletic director. Seems like everyone hates theirs and they're just a magnet for criticism.


they are. It's like being a politician or a customer service representative for an airline.

People will hate you for absolutely no reason.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
13856 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:51 pm to
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why do people listen to this clown?

Maybe because they are LSU fans and he hosts a daily LSU centric sports talk show? Just guessing here.
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 4:52 pm
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17316 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:53 pm to
I'm weary of any turnover right now. The stability we have in the football department is almost unheard of in today's game, and it's about to pay big dividends over the next few years.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39980 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:53 pm to
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I just wonder if any university likes their athletic director. Seems like everyone hates theirs and they're just a magnet for criticism. It is just a thankless position.

There hasn't been an AD in my lifetime (Dean, Bertman and Alleva) that wasn't roundly and routinely hated, regardless of their perceived successes or failures. Skip is the one that gets ripped on the least and it's 100% because of his legacy as a coach.
Posted by secman12
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2011
1212 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:53 pm to
Dan R may be fine, but please do some homework on him..from AJC..


2011, just before GT was hit with MAJOR penalties in football and basketball, and had to vacate an ACC Championship

Scratch Georgia Tech’s Dan Radakovich from Tennessee’s list for a new athletic director.

Georgia Tech’s recent NCAA troubles and the NCAA’s assertion that Georgia Tech officials attempted to “manipulate the information surrounding potential violations” makes Radakovich untouchable for a school that appeared before the Committee on Infractions just last month for major violations in both football and men’s basketball.

Tennessee should find out sometime next month what sanctions it will face for violations that occurred on the watch of former athletic director Mike Hamilton, who stepped down in June.

In the meantime, Tennessee is left to pick up the pieces now that Radakovich is out.

What’s most troublesome for Tennessee supporters is that the university forked out six figures to the Parker Executive Search firm to help identify candidates, gather information … and conduct background checks.

If that’s the case, how does a guy like Radakovich emerge as the front-runner when his own shop is about to get hit with NCAA penalties
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:55 pm to
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Skip is the one that gets ripped on the least and it's 100% because of his legacy as a coach.


think it's because of the fb nc's?
quote:

(Dean,

cancer to the program , held us down for years
Posted by TXGunslinger10
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
17995 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:57 pm to
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Yep, or maybe an internal promotion for someone like Herb Vincent.


Herb just took a job with the SEC. I don't know if he would be interested in coming right back. It might be a timing thing with him.

Although I think he probably would come back if offered
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:58 pm to
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99% of the rant has no clue what Alleva does on a day to day basis.




Fact.




oh, some more "insiders," I have a clue as to what he does, and although he's kind of a know it all, he's plateaued here, IMO
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124360 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:59 pm to
Bye joe
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39980 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 5:00 pm to
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think it's because of the fb nc's?

Probably has a lot to do with it. He deserves credit for hiring Les, for sure. The Cox Center and the new practice facility were the brain child of Saban, though.

People forget that Bertman was the one that really got the ball rolling on making the Department a money making machine, which is what people seem to hate about Alleva. Or at least they hate the things that it takes (higher ticket prices, TAF donations, pay to park, etc.) to make the department into the juggernaut that it has become.
Posted by secman12
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2011
1212 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 5:03 pm to
The Cox Center and the new practice facility were the brain child of Saban, though.

ahh, no... Dinardo had both in motion and indoor football facility was built before Saban came, Cox Center was over 50% funded before Saban, although he did help improve it for sure
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84848 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 5:05 pm to
Alleva has done a good job for LSU and the fact that this isn't the first time another major school has tried to poach him should tell everyone a lot about how he's viewed around the country
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39980 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 5:06 pm to
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indoor football facility was built before Saban came

I'm not talking just about the indoor facility, but the complete reworking of the practice fields and the football operations facility.

And directly from the Cox Center website:
quote:

In the fall of 2000, LSU's head football coach Nick Saban had a vision. His idea was to create an academic center that would house the best academic support program, state-of-the-art technology and unique blend of study environments to create leaders on and off the field. Coach Saban looked to Richard Manship, longtime Tiger football booster and CEO of Capital City Press and WBRZ-TV, to head the fundraising for the massive project.

quote:

Just two years after its initial concept, the Cox Communications Academic Center for Student-Athletes was opened on November 15, 2002 with a grand opening gala!
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 5:07 pm
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 5:06 pm to
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People forget that Bertman was the one that really got the ball rolling

that's a fact, however, some of the things you mention aren't necessary, as the TAF has sort of turned into the mafia, if you want what they've got, you are going to pay, their price, keep a winning product(always in the nc hunt,) out there, and you don't need to extort Joe six pack and his family, who's going to come no matter what, until you price them out, that's probably a big factor in why the stadium empties out so quickly

ETA: not so sure Skip would have bit on the head fakes by Miles agent either, that money has to come from somewhere
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 5:14 pm
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28340 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 5:09 pm to
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Alleva is very well respected nationally




Yea....that Duke lacrosse case is a real highlight on his resume.

Good riddance if he goes.....maybe his replacement will do something to improve the in-game experience in Tiger Stadium for the paying customers.
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
12304 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 5:18 pm to
Won't lose sleep. Need someone to assertively challenge the Saban machine.
Posted by FT
REDACTED
Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 5:18 pm to
They should have gotten the death penalty. If they didn't then SMU should have gotten like 18 national championships.

Good job with pedophilia, Penn State. Good job. What an evil and corrupt program.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23066 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 5:24 pm to
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Yea....that Duke lacrosse case is a real highlight on his resume.

Good riddance if he goes.....maybe his replacement will do something to improve the in-game experience in Tiger Stadium for the paying customers.



Not sure why you're laughing. Alleva is very well respected nationally.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96012 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 5:28 pm to
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I think once the new upper deck is really squared away, they can start to focus on things like improving cell signal


Pretty sure the cell signal project will be complete for this season
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29187 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 5:39 pm to
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There hasn't been an AD in my lifetime (Dean, Bertman and Alleva) that wasn't roundly and routinely hated, regardless of their perceived successes or failures. Skip is the one that gets ripped on the least and it's 100% because of his legacy as a coach.



This. other than filtering out "The good ole boys", he was a horrible AD.

I really hope Joe stays. Contrary to what the irrational portion of our base believes, he has done a fine job in Baton Rouge. If he leaves, there's no denying he has left the program in excellent shape.

our first flight better be out to Louisville, assuming he takes the offer. That is a lot of money Penn State is throwing around

And at you Alleva haters wanting Radakovich. what in the ever living hell has he accomplished as AD?
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