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re: Joe Alleva to be targeted by Penn State per Moscona
Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:39 am to LSUANDY25
Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:39 am to LSUANDY25
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Altho, i do hate to see now AD's trolling for more money, but hate the game.....
It definitely sucks, but every major player in college football has been doing this for years and that's what it takes to compete at the highest level nowadays. Gotta pay the bills to see the thrills, unfortunately.
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:02 pm to Duckie
He's made what appears to be a couple of solid hires and a bad one in Trent Johnson. He's argued our case to the SEC vehemently for years now, but to no avail. That's just the facts of life, there's not a single AD who could have made our position better in regards to scheduling (Bama included). The games on the schedule I hope get better but the jury is still out.
To me his strengths are making the university a ton of money. Revamping and creating new facilities (which has been exciting up to this point). I also think in regards to improving the gameday experience, he'll deliver. Right now it's about prioritizing however. Once the stadium is finished then I feel like the more minor issues will be addressed. Wifi, concourse, bathrooms (though I don't think it's that bad). The big reason the butts aren't in seats is gameday traffic, if he addresses that problem it will improve.
To me his strengths are making the university a ton of money. Revamping and creating new facilities (which has been exciting up to this point). I also think in regards to improving the gameday experience, he'll deliver. Right now it's about prioritizing however. Once the stadium is finished then I feel like the more minor issues will be addressed. Wifi, concourse, bathrooms (though I don't think it's that bad). The big reason the butts aren't in seats is gameday traffic, if he addresses that problem it will improve.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:07 pm to Duckie
Duckie
I like the Dallas and Houston opening day games and not just for the haul of the payday. I believe both areas are open for recruiting especially Houston with UT going thru pains. I believe South la has as much in common with Houston as does College Station and its ripe for the taking.
Once some of the LA talent started going to Gumpville, LSU decided to increase its recruiting range which in my mind was another outstanding decision. This guy is supportive of his coaches and seems to create dollars going into the Athletic dept.
I also give him 50% credit for the Cam Cameron hire. Johnny Jones, Nikki Caldwell and Beth Torina are excellent hires as well. I could go on but i will just say..
Almost every decision, that has come out of the Athletic dept since he got here, i have been in favor of. We could bash the Trent Johnson hire but he and Mike Anderson both seemed to be the best two choices at that time. Both LSU and Mizzou missed on those two.
At least he didnt hire Van Chancellor.
I like the Dallas and Houston opening day games and not just for the haul of the payday. I believe both areas are open for recruiting especially Houston with UT going thru pains. I believe South la has as much in common with Houston as does College Station and its ripe for the taking.
Once some of the LA talent started going to Gumpville, LSU decided to increase its recruiting range which in my mind was another outstanding decision. This guy is supportive of his coaches and seems to create dollars going into the Athletic dept.
I also give him 50% credit for the Cam Cameron hire. Johnny Jones, Nikki Caldwell and Beth Torina are excellent hires as well. I could go on but i will just say..
Almost every decision, that has come out of the Athletic dept since he got here, i have been in favor of. We could bash the Trent Johnson hire but he and Mike Anderson both seemed to be the best two choices at that time. Both LSU and Mizzou missed on those two.
At least he didnt hire Van Chancellor.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:15 pm to LSUANDY25
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I like the Dallas and Houston opening day games. I believe both areas are open for recruiting especially Houston with UT going thru pains. I believe South la has as much in common with Houston as does College Station and its ripe for the taking.
I understand why one wouldn't like the neutral site games. We all want quality OOC home night games. But when you consider the guaranteed financial gains, the difficulty in getting quality teams to agree to play in Tiger Stadium and the excitement it brings to players in getting the opportunity to play in an NFL stadium nearly every year (also a recruiting tool), I'd say it's definitely a net gain for us. It's the nature of the game these days when you're a top-tier program.
And we can't over-emphasize the importance of his allowing head coaches to hire excellent assistant coaches (Cameron, Chavis, Dunn and now Musselman).
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:33 pm to Duckie
I'm ok with it, if we trade up...
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:36 pm to Cadello
If we go the Louisville AD route, we went up.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:40 pm to lsu2006
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And we can't over-emphasize the importance of his allowing head coaches to hire excellent assistant coaches (Cameron, Chavis, Dunn and now Musselman).
The lengths y'all go to prop this guy up
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:51 pm to Adam Banks
As far as I'm concerned, he blew it with gameday parking last year....even if you wanted to pay for a spot, campus was locked down 3 hours before kickoff...
Posted on 6/20/14 at 1:03 pm to Adam Banks
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The lengths y'all go to prop this guy up
I don't see how what I said is at all a stretch. Dean and Bertman never coughed up the money for assistants that Alleva has. Not even close. I respect you as a poster, but we will never agree on Alleva. I'll just leave it at that.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 1:04 pm to Duckie
Emmert would make a good AD hire, he ought to be looking for a NCAA escape clause
Posted on 6/20/14 at 1:05 pm to Duckie
Matt Millen, that way they would never be a factor again.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 1:21 pm to lsu2006
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Dean and Bertman never coughed up the money for assistants that Alleva has. Not even close.
just for fun. go ahead and prove that.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 1:46 pm to T
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just for fun. go ahead and prove that.
If you were around during the DiNardo years, you know first hand that Dean and co. played a big hand in our inability to keep elite assistants around DiNardo, and ultimately DiNardo's demise.
I'll admit, it was probably unfair to include Skip, because he was the first to REALLY dump money into the football program which lead us to where we are now.
But the proof is in the pudding as far as Alleva's willingness to pay the big bucks for elite assistant coaches. Cam and Chavis are both among the top-5 highest paid assistants in college football and both are among the best at what they do. Not to mention we've been able to lure in two other elite assistants with professional backgrounds in Dunn and now Musselman.
Are you not satisfied with the quality of assistant coaches we have surrounding our head coaches in the big three sports?
Posted on 6/20/14 at 3:49 pm to lsu2006
so can you prove it? don't start asking me questions. I still want to see if you can prove your point.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 3:50 pm to T
quote:stop being an arse. Everyone knows Joe Dean was cheap as frick. He penny pinched wherever he could.
so can you prove it? don't start asking me questions. I still want to see if you can prove your point.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 6/20/14 at 4:00 pm to T
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so can you prove it?
Joe Dean was extremely cheap and this was a big reason that we couldn't keep a number of great assistants that DiNardo had. What exactly should I provide you with in order for you to understand something that is so abundantly obvious and well-known? Peer-reviewed articles? Primary sources? Should I file a public records request?
Jesus, get over yourself. You're easily one of the most miserable, condescending and abrasive people on here. And that's saying a lot.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 4:00 pm to T
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so can you prove it? don't start asking me questions. I still want to see if you can prove your point.
He proved his point pretty convincingly
Posted on 6/20/14 at 4:10 pm to Draconian Sanctions
not really. he just stated his opinion in a different way. he's a poor poster who spouts off stuff like they are fact, yet rarely can prove his point. I just happen to be one of the few who will call him out. he gets frustrated and upset when I do. poor fella.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 4:11 pm to lsu2006
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Joe Dean was extremely cheap and this was a big reason that we couldn't keep a number of great assistants that DiNardo had. What exactly should I provide you with in order for you to understand something that is so abundantly obvious and well-known? Peer-reviewed articles? Primary sources? Should I file a public records request?
Posted on 6/20/14 at 4:23 pm to T
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he's a poor poster who spouts off stuff like they are fact, yet rarely can prove his point. I just happen to be one of the few who will call him out. he gets frustrated and upset when I do. poor fella.
Whatever makes you feel better, chief. I'm more confused by your obsession with me than anything.
I guess I'll try again - What do I need to give you to prove that Alleva is more willing to pay big money to elite assistant coaches than Dean was and more willing than most, if any, other AD's in the country? Our OC and DC are both in the top-5 highest paid assistant coaches in college football. We lured Alan Dunn away from the Baltimore Orioles minor league pitching coordinator position and recently hired an associate basketball coach with NBA head coaching experience.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 4:24 pm
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