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Its not the plan its execution
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:11 pm
The fact that our plan is solid and that more efficiency/execution is needed is the typical line that CLM spouts out in response to lack of production. We all agree the the formations, plans, play calls have been bad, but isn't the fact that LSU players have suffered from a lack of execution for almost 5 years now an even bigger indictment?
I wonder why know one ever brings this up. I agree the offensive strategy has been underwhelming, but to me if it is an "execution" problem then the HC is confirming the criticism.
I wonder why know one ever brings this up. I agree the offensive strategy has been underwhelming, but to me if it is an "execution" problem then the HC is confirming the criticism.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:15 pm to Jeffreylebowski
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Its not the plan its execution
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Jeffreylebowski
Well, that's just like, your opinion, man.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:16 pm to Jeffreylebowski
If you look at our pass plays, there's always someone open. Maybe a TE down the seam, maybe a RB in the flat, maybe Dural gets behind the coverage. I believe Cameron is scheming well enough and setting up some good plays that have not been executed.
In regards to our run plays, yes there are times when we crowd the line with jumbo sets but the o-line is not blocking well regardless of the formation or play.
In regards to our run plays, yes there are times when we crowd the line with jumbo sets but the o-line is not blocking well regardless of the formation or play.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:16 pm to Jeffreylebowski
It's the plan and the execution (or lack of). The broad scheme is okay, but there is a lot more to it than that or at least should be.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:17 pm to Jeffreylebowski
If your team is unable to execute the game plan then you have to determine if
A) You aren't playing to your players' strengths
B) Some of your players need to ride the pine
C) The defense is able to prevent you from running your game plan and you need to make adjustments
A) You aren't playing to your players' strengths
B) Some of your players need to ride the pine
C) The defense is able to prevent you from running your game plan and you need to make adjustments
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:19 pm to south bama tiger
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If you look at our pass plays, there's always someone open. Maybe a TE down the seam, maybe a RB in the flat, maybe Dural gets behind the coverage. I believe Cameron is scheming well enough and setting up some good plays that have not been executed.
The problem is that a lot of the two receiver sets run deep routes. If protection breaks down, we don't always have a guy out short to dump the ball off to. It's created a lot of risky passes and sacks.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:22 pm to Jeffreylebowski
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isn't the fact that LSU players have suffered from a lack of execution for almost 5 years now an even bigger indictment?
we execute better against lessor teams than teams with similar talent...pretty much the same as any other team in the country.
when running into an 8 man front in the SEC is execution to blame when the play is run into the strength of the defense?
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:22 pm to Bmath
It's all about predictability.
The offense's advantage is knowing where the play is going while the defense has to react.
That way, you don't have to execute perfectly every single play to have success.
You force the defense to make a mistake (like a busted coverage) and you are able to get easy wins.
Les just wants to do it the hard way, and when it doesn't work.... there aren't any other ways to explain it away besides executing better.
The offense's advantage is knowing where the play is going while the defense has to react.
That way, you don't have to execute perfectly every single play to have success.
You force the defense to make a mistake (like a busted coverage) and you are able to get easy wins.
Les just wants to do it the hard way, and when it doesn't work.... there aren't any other ways to explain it away besides executing better.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:28 pm to Mahootney
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You force the defense to make a mistake (like a busted coverage) and you are able to get easy wins.
One could argue that many of Fournette's big runs last year were created by the defense stacking the box.
With the safeties in close, you just have to open one hole and Fournette is off to the races. However, that's easier said than done and often leads to a lot of tough runs throughout the game.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:32 pm to Bmath
I think it's obviously execution. You don't score 21 points in one quarter due to a different qb and it not be execution. Same offense, different player, very good production.
The issue isn't scheme. It's the coaches inability to recruit, evaluate, or develop a qb to run the scheme.
The issue isn't scheme. It's the coaches inability to recruit, evaluate, or develop a qb to run the scheme.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:34 pm to Jeffreylebowski
Several SEC D coordinators have anonymously stated the ease with which to plan their defensive strategies when playing LSU. Go figure.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:35 pm to Jeffreylebowski
Don't be fatuous, Jeffrey!
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:36 pm to dos crystal
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I think it's obviously execution
That is the point of the OP. If execution of an otherwise solid scheme is why the offense has been abysmal for 6 of the last 8 years, perhaps you should adjust your damn scheme to fit your players.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:37 pm to dos crystal
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I think it's obviously execution. You don't score 21 points in one quarter due to a different qb and it not be execution. Same offense, different player, very good production.
uh qb is a very important position no?
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:40 pm to Jeffreylebowski
Go back and watch last weeks game. This offensive line is not very good my fellow tiger fans. They were getting pushed around by JSU. Pass blocking has been a problem for years now.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:41 pm to TigerFanNKaty
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Pass blocking has been a problem for years now
I believe because we don't emphasize passing. If we did it more and from spread formations they would look much better
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:43 pm to Bmath
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With the safeties in close, you just have to open one hole and Fournette is off to the races. However, that's easier said than done and often leads to a lot of tough runs throughout the game.
nope, that's not correct.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:44 pm to Jeffreylebowski
Ok well the fact the our Oline can't block, best WR doesn't fight for the ball and starting QB couldn't complete a 5 yd pass all reflects on one man. You can blame the execution, the calls, the lack of aggression, or whatever. It's all on the head coach.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:45 pm to Topwater Trout
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I believe because we don't emphasize passing. If we did it more and from spread formations they would look much better
Maybe, but they're not getting beat physically as often as they get beat by communication and protection issues. I don't know if that would change with an insurgence of shotgun plays. In fact, if I'm not mistaken they looked even worse against Wisconsin out of the gun.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:46 pm to Topwater Trout
Yes it's why Les needs to go. Asking a QB to throw to tow wide receivers constantly is just not smart football. Let's see two receivers 4 dbs, shouldn't be hard to figure out.
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