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re: If 2-5 losses per year was good enough for Saban, why not Miles?

Posted on 12/2/15 at 5:41 pm to
Posted by GoldenTrumpeter
Member since Nov 2015
226 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 5:41 pm to
And don't forget about all the new and upgraded facilities. Thank Saban and Emmert for leading the way on that.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 5:54 pm to
Are you just stupid or what?

Saban came into a crap team, we expected it would take some time to recover. He actually did better than expected in a shorter time.

With the quality players coming in as he was leaving and since he left we expect the same quality of coaching but of course have not gotten it, damn - how stupid are you
Posted by pt448
LA
Member since Nov 2013
502 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:13 pm to
Actually, if you look at the number of wins and end of season national ranking the LSU football program improved after Saban left and Miles took over. Again, no one is discounting what Saban did for LSU football, but Miles did better with "Saban's players" than Saban did, and continued to be very successful after they all graduated/left. Our program has enjoyed a steady upward trend since 1995. We have a better record this year than last and another phenomenal recruiting class coming in. There's no reason to think the improvement won't continue. I know my optimism must piss some people off, but I like to think that LSU will be successful.
Posted by pellietigersaint
Tiger Stadium
Member since Aug 2005
19043 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:20 pm to
I agree with the Op. I have said this so many times I can't even remember
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:28 pm to
quote:

We have a better record this year than last.


Well you have been taken in by the SCAM of the CRAP games vs. the SEC, or real games. How McCllendon would have loved playing these soft schools and calling them wins. I vote we play my alma mater Lafayette High and ad another win

Wake Up
Posted by tigertalkster
Member since Dec 2009
644 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:31 pm to
We didn't like saban when he was here either. We didn't start this love affair till he left Miami and became the coach at Bama
Posted by tigertalkster
Member since Dec 2009
644 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:32 pm to
We didn't like saban when he was here either. We didn't start this love affair till he left Miami and became the coach at Bama
Posted by pt448
LA
Member since Nov 2013
502 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:37 pm to
quote:

Well you have been taken in by the SCAM of the CRAP games vs. the SEC, or real games. How McCllendon would have loved playing these soft schools and calling them wins. I vote we play my alma mater Lafayette High and ad another win


Yes because games against schools like Toledo, Memphis, Citadel, and FAU are just easy gimme wins for SEC schools.
What about UAB or Oregon State? *cough, cough*

We also have a better SEC record this year than last.
This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 6:39 pm
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:39 pm to
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Yes because games against schools like Toledo, Memphis, Citadel, and FAU are just easy gimme wins for SEC schools.
What about UAB or Oregon State? *cough, cough*



Sure there are the rare ones, but don't confuse those with the majority, obviously your not an SEC fan
Posted by jose canseco
Houston via Houma via BR via NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
5667 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:44 pm to
Bob Stoops has had three 8 win seasons since 2005. Yet they kept him last year after another poor season. He has his team in championship contention this season. Think about it.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:50 pm to
quote:

Miles has a better record and more top 10 finishes yet many can't get over Saban leaving and wish Miles would have gotten the boot. It just doesn't make sense to me.


Saban lost games no doubt. But rarely did his teams show up looking totally unprepared followed by a really schitty job of coaching on the sidelines.
Since leaving he has perfected his craft.

Miles doesn't get that benefit of the doubt because hes been here forever and still has his teams looking like dumpster fires at the end of the seasons...which doesn't make sense to anyone not ready to bear his children. He still has massive brain farts on the sidelines regularly, and quite frankly, a lot of people are tired of this routine.
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
10237 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:53 pm to
It's hard to believe anyone thinks Miles is as good a coach as Saban. When they go against each other head to head, who wins? Sadly, it is usually Nick Saban.
Posted by pt448
LA
Member since Nov 2013
502 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

It's hard to believe anyone thinks Miles is as good a coach as Saban. When they go against each other head to head, who wins? Sadly, it is usually Nick Saban.


Saban has a good thing going over at bama and has enjoyed many #1 recruiting classes. Expand your vision for a minute. 2004 roster and 2005 roster were very similar. Who did better? If Miles is really a buffoon and not a good coach and somehow just lucked into the last 11 years I wish I had his rabbit's foot.
Posted by tiggah1981
Winterfell
Member since Aug 2007
17025 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

They spent Three years getting coached by Miles. So as a rational human being, you're trying to tell me that they learned all there was to know under Saban as freshman when they didn't even play much. Then for the next three years they learned nothing from Miles but were able to win a title? You


so no credit goes to Jimbo and Bo, the coordinators in 2005 and 2006 (crowton was the OC 2007, but it's obvious Miles took over playingcalling after the NCG)


tell me how fun it was watching the 05-07 teams...now tell wtf happened the next 7 out of 8 seasons? So what then happened to Miles great coaching track?
Posted by pt448
LA
Member since Nov 2013
502 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

Sure there are the rare ones, but don't confuse those with the majority, obviously your not an SEC fan


Obviously.
Look to the left. It says "LSU fan"
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79637 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 7:27 pm to
quote:

f 2-5 losses per year was good enough for Saban, why not Miles?


2 SEC titles, 1 NC in 5 years.

2 SEC titles, 1 NC in 11 years.

Do the math.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76270 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 7:28 pm to
You're right, OP. Miles is as good as Saban. The numbers prove it. You're right. You win.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66440 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 7:31 pm to
Saban took over a team that had just had 2 losing seasons in a row.

Miles took over a team that had just won a national championship.

I don't think we are declining, but i think we have fallen back a but from where we were 2001-2007. 2 National Championships, 3 SEC Championships 4 SECW Championships. in 7 years.

That was a fricking dominant 7 years.

Also frick you for using AP rankings.
Posted by pt448
LA
Member since Nov 2013
502 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 7:32 pm to
quote:

You're right, OP. Miles is as good as Saban. The numbers prove it. You're right. You win.


Thank you. Glad you finally came around.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76270 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 7:38 pm to


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