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Posted on 12/2/15 at 1:44 am to winston318
Records of East vs. West
1. Florida 1-1 (loss to SECW #4)
2. Georgia 1-1 (win over SECW #7)
3. Tennessee 0-2
4. Kentucky 0-2
5. Vanderbilt 0-2
6. Missouri 0-2
7. Vandy 0-2
In 2001, LSU won the West yet lost two games against SECE teams. Ole Miss, the only other SECW team to finish with fewer than 5 losses overall, went 2-1, but that was because Vandy and Kentucky were two of their SECE opponents. so it was pretty much the opposite of how it is now.
1. Florida 1-1 (loss to SECW #4)
2. Georgia 1-1 (win over SECW #7)
3. Tennessee 0-2
4. Kentucky 0-2
5. Vanderbilt 0-2
6. Missouri 0-2
7. Vandy 0-2
In 2001, LSU won the West yet lost two games against SECE teams. Ole Miss, the only other SECW team to finish with fewer than 5 losses overall, went 2-1, but that was because Vandy and Kentucky were two of their SECE opponents. so it was pretty much the opposite of how it is now.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 1:52 am to BayouBlogger
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In 2001, LSU won the West yet lost two games against SECE teams. Ole Miss, the only other SECW team to finish with fewer than 5 losses overall, went 2-1, but that was because Vandy and Kentucky were two of their SECE opponents. so it was pretty much the opposite of how it is now.
That doesn't mean that the West is better now. We all know that the East is down. That's a terrible way to try to say that the west is better now. You must be looking at teams becoming Bowl eligible
Posted on 12/2/15 at 1:52 am to pt448
Saban didn't really win a NC at LSU.
USC won that year.
USC won that year.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 2:03 am to Rebel
USC won the AP National Championship
Saban won the BCS. That's the 1 that mattered. #1 vs #2
USC was #3 and played #4 Michigan
Saban won the BCS. That's the 1 that mattered. #1 vs #2
USC was #3 and played #4 Michigan
Posted on 12/2/15 at 2:13 am to pt448
Its like the opposite of the catastrophe syndrome Saban talked about when he first got to LSU. Its higher expectations and a sense of entitlement. Now, when expectations aren't met, are aren't up to most of these jackasses standards, catastrophy syndrome set in again.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 2:17 am to beauchristopher
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He was only around a short period and built LSU up dumbass lol
What he established was a bunch of unrealistic expectations, and when not met, the dumbass LSU fanbase cries like a bunch of whiney idiots.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:46 am to TigerBait1127
Miles first three years were all due in part because of the players already on the team that saban recruited..what has miles done since 2008? 1 NC appearance in which he couldn't get his stacked team across the 50 yd line
Do u really think miles can go from a 3-5 loss season and win the national championship the very next year?
Do u really think miles can go from a 3-5 loss season and win the national championship the very next year?
This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 4:48 am
Posted on 12/2/15 at 5:20 am to pt448
Look at what Saban inherited.
Look at what Miles inherited.
How does this not make sense to you? Saban took over for a coach that just got fired. Les took over for a coach that got total control of an NFL franchise.
Look at what Miles inherited.
How does this not make sense to you? Saban took over for a coach that just got fired. Les took over for a coach that got total control of an NFL franchise.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 5:28 am to tiggah1981
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Miles first three years were all due in part because of the players already on the team that saban recruited
That's not going to sit well with the Miles high club.
Not only recruited, but, coached up by Saban.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 5:45 am to americanlsufan
Then why he can't be him?
Posted on 12/2/15 at 5:46 am to americanlsufan
Just think if he would have stayed.
This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 5:50 am
Posted on 12/2/15 at 5:46 am to pt448
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I think I see what you're trying to say, but you gotta remember the SEC West in 2000-2004 was no the same SEC West it is today. The competition top to bottom (not just bama) is much stiffer.
Exactly. What would Saban's record at LSU have been like if an equivalent Saban had been at Bama?
Posted on 12/2/15 at 5:53 am to pt448
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pt448
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If 2-5 losses per year was good enough for Saban, why not Miles?
Nick Saban is about to win his 4th National Title in 6 seasons
I hear the OP, and I used to make similar arguments but somewhere along the way Nick Saban got better plus, recruiting to Alabama is probably easier than recruiting to LSU
Posted on 12/2/15 at 5:55 am to AcetylCoA
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We would be on championship number 4 with Saban by now. Fact. 5 is debatable.
How do you know this?
Posted on 12/2/15 at 5:56 am to pt448
The truth being, Saban came to an LSU football program that was severely damaged, and rebuilt it mightily. Miles inherited a strong program and has led it to a slow decline. In short, Miles line of credit is about to run out.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 5:59 am to RemyLeBeau
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Miles first three years were all due in part because of the players already on the team that saban recruited
That's not going to sit well with the Miles high club.
Not only recruited, but, coached up by Saban
So does this logic mean Saban won with DiNardo's players?
Nah. That doesn't help the narrative to shite all over LSU, does it?
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:03 am to pt448
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I don't think Saban does what he did here without DiNardo's '95-'97 success
Saban took over in 2000, so why 95-97?
98-99, the last 2 years before Saban. We only won a total of about 6 games?
ALOT OF THE TOP TALENT in the state were going elsewhere.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:06 am to ApexTiger
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Nick Saban is about to win his 4th National Title in 6 seasons
How do you know?
Saban isn't going to be given a Mulligan, or a one-game match up with a media darling that is clearly worse than half the teams in his conference (ND 2012).
Ole Sabes and Bama are going to have to win two games against two really good teams.
He's lost his last two bowls.
How do you know this?
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I hear the OP, and I used to make similar arguments but somewhere along the way Nick Saban got better plus, recruiting to Alabama is probably easier than recruiting to LSU
Well, duh. Bama fields the best team money can buy in CFB every week for years. Of course he does. Not to mention the other off-field benefits Saban experiences at Bama that NO other coach in the SEC gets.
LSU Saban never enjoyed these benefits, thus you got those records.
You people need to wake up and realize what LSU is up against and the standards they face on and off the field. All of these myths put on this board are hilarious to read. Some of you really do live in a fantasy world where LSU gets the top talent annually, plays an easy schedule, then gets the benefit of the doubt from the media when they lose a game.
When Saban was at LSU and LSU lost, LSU fell, just like now. Saban loses at Bama? LOLOLOLOLOL
The list of double standards goes on and on and on and on...
But keep living in a fantasy world where LSU should have won X number of titles the past 11 years. It wouldn't have mattered who the damn coach was, our success would have been similar.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:14 am to cj2002
DiNardo was feeding off Curley's recruits. Hallman couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag, but he brought in lots of fine players, particularly on defense.
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