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re: Here is an easy $62.5 million to address the states shortfall.

Posted on 3/3/16 at 8:09 am to
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 8:09 am to
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indal cut state employee numbers from somewhere near 90k to near 60k in his tenure.



No he didn't. He cut positions that were not even filled. If you believe anything the Jindal hype train spouted you are an idiot.
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 8:10 am to
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and make people actually work for a living.


Well you just invalidated your entire argument there.
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 8:12 am to
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You didn't mention the hefty raises Jindal gave all his buddies in govt one week before he left office knowing the state was facing a tremendous deficit.


Who did he give raises to again?
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 8:15 am to
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Stop giving the law makers raises like JBE did as soon as he got into office too.


The Governor can't give lawmakers raises
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35374 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 8:29 am to
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How about instead of cutting jobs where people actually work for a living as most state workers do. You call your legislators and cut their salaries and benefits. Also we can stop paying people not to work. Food stamps is a way for people to abuse the system. They eat snow crabs, steaks and lobsters from grocery stores using their food stamp cards.also we need to stop paying people to have kids. I dont care what race , religion or country you come from if you cant afford kids dont have them...budget solved.


That has to be the dumbest strategy for solving the state's budget ever. You really need to educate yourself on welfare funding and actual uses, not just what you read on a twitter feed.
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1632 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 8:33 am to
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He cut positions that were not even filled


Man I've lived it and posted my experience in this thread. My opinion is based on experience and not media, political speaches, or "hype".
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 8:36 am to
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He didn't cut the workforce that much, he played shadow games and eliminated vacant positions. I know this firsthand
Tell that to my wife. She worked at HP Long in Alex. that was shut down. Some shenanigans were afoot, because there are HPL clinics funded by the state, but run by the local hospital. I know this firsthand

I'd gladly cave that Indian punk's face in with a baseball bat if given the chance.
Posted by Geecubed
The Eventual St. George
Member since Apr 2011
425 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 8:37 am to
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Trim the state workforce by 50% and make people actually work for a living.


This is a stereotype, promulgated because of the idiots at OMV and the Public Assistance offices. Most state employees work for every penny they receive, as the state has cut vacancies and funding several times over the past 9 years.

So yeah, step off your soapbox, and come back with some shite when you know what you are talking about.
Posted by The Cow Goes Moo Moo
Bucktown
Member since Nov 2012
3505 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 8:44 am to
I work for the fed gov, and they're doing the same thing.

Technically, the position isn't "filled" because the person left due to retirement or finding another job. Instead of hiring someone new in that position, it is absorbed into another position. Sucks because most of them are higher grade jobs, reducing the number of opportunities for advancement.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10086 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 8:46 am to
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You work yourself up in a lather about welfare mommas buying lobster w/ foodstamps, but, you're cool with shoveling money to the Robertsons, Tom Benson, California movie industry, etc
Drink that liberal koolaid.
Tax breaks to encourage buisness and LA jobs is money you never had, and never would without attracting buisness to the state.
Free lobsters, crawfish, ribeyes, etc to those who have never contributed to the economy and likely never will, is more what you mean by shoveling cash.
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 8:57 am to
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Tax breaks to encourage buisness and LA jobs is money you never had, and never would without attracting buisness to the state.


What about all the money the state dishes out to the movie industry? It brings very little return on investment and is money that the state pays. And if you really think all those tax breaks are for business to come to LA you are drowning in the koolaid.
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1632 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:06 am to
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the position isn't "filled" because the person left due to retirement or finding another job. Instead of hiring someone new in that position, it is absorbed into another position.


This is what I keep trying to get acros, its semantics but the concept is the same. Private companies do it all the time to save money down the road and boost profits, somehow it's a bad idea when fed or state govt does it. It sucks, I've lived it, but it's business and my family has survived.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18135 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:15 am to
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It takes time to be trained and become competent in any new job, and being a legislator is no different. They mean well, but simply lack the understanding and ability to perform at a high level, especially now when we need that the most.

Plus, if a district wants to return the same person to office again and again, why shouldn't those voters have that right? Why artificially limit the will of the voters?



you're way off on this. The Founding Fathers envisioned a citizen legislature, not entrenched, professional politicians whose main concern is raising money and getting reelected, not doing what's right.

This exists on both sides of the aisle, so it's not a Democrat or Republican thing. Professional politicians are a huge factor in all of our problems, not just at the state level but in DC as well.
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
108738 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:23 am to
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Here is an easy $62.5 million to address the states shortfall


Sell alcohol at LSU sporting events.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10086 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:49 am to
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What about all the money the state dishes out to the movie industry? It brings very little return on investment and is money that the state pays
So maybe you can explain how the state dishes out money when it's a tax credit? We don't actually pay them first to come, nor would they be here without incentive.
Many governments of thriving economies do this for industry and it works.
It is difficult to reverse a rep for reneging on business incentives and brings on slow economic suicide.
This post was edited on 3/3/16 at 9:52 am
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
9595 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:49 am to
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and paying for treatment programs and law enforcement to help keep the potheads in check


Because pot heads are such a huge problem.
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 11:02 am to
pure bullshite
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57427 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 11:13 am to
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You didn't mention the hefty raises Jindal gave all his buddies in govt one week before he left office knowing the state was facing a tremendous deficit.

you didnt mention the hefty raises JBE gave him and his staff right before he released this shite about shutting down LSU
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57427 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 11:14 am to
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cutting jobs where people actually work for a living as most state workers do.
the private sector gets 1 person to do the job 2 or 3 would do that work for the state.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57427 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 11:19 am to
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Tell that to my wife. She worked at HP Long in Alex. that was shut down. Some shenanigans were afoot, because there are HPL clinics funded by the state, but run by the local hospital. I know this firsthand

I'd gladly cave that Indian punk's face in with a baseball bat if given the chance.

Im no jindal apologist but damn, leads of government have to make cuts sometimes. If you or your wife was on the block and are worth your weight, you should easily be able to find a new job. If not maybe they deserved to be cut.
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