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re: Here is an easy $62.5 million to address the states shortfall.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 8:07 pm to HMTVBrian2
Posted on 3/2/16 at 8:07 pm to HMTVBrian2
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by HMTVBrian2
Or........legalize marijuana, and make a billion
Bandaid just like legalizing gambling. It should happen but there are other issues at hand
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better yet JBE, why not call one of your magical special sessions and fix the constitution that only allows for healthcare and education to be cut. Thats the real problem here. Open up the books and cut the ridiculous fat that the state spends on state employees. Trim the state workforce by 50% and make people actually work for a living. Eliminate the many depts that have no value and consolidate like actual businesses do.
We need to protect our construction spending. Louisiana has the best roads in the world..........
This post was edited on 3/2/16 at 8:10 pm
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Posted on 3/2/16 at 8:35 pm to RummelTiger
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CO had almost a billion in sales, but taxes collected, which is what would count for these purposes, totaled a little over $100MM
State of Washington is projected to bring in over a billion in sales tax revenues over the next 4 years.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 8:47 pm to s-port tiger
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Chew on that for a minute and realize if he had not done that where would we be?
BATON ROUGE – As Bobby Jindal prepared for his 2008 inauguration as governor, state government workers numbered about 93,500.
Today, that workforce hovers at 62,000 employees — fewer than it’s been in more than two decades. Spending on payroll has decreased by about $1 billion annually
You didn't mention the hefty raises Jindal gave all his buddies in govt one week before he left office knowing the state was facing a tremendous deficit.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:01 pm to Fenwick86
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State of Washington is projected to bring in over a billion in sales tax revenues over the next 4 years.
Cool.
Don't misunderstand, I could give two-shits if marijuana is legalized in all 50 states, Antartica, and Mars...but with the legalization of said marijuana, a lot of that tax revenue will be going to other programs, school districts, etc. I'd suspect that little money would go to the gaping hole known as higher ed.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:09 pm to Mudminnow
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You didn't mention the hefty raises Jindal gave all his buddies in govt one week before he left office knowing the state was facing a tremendous deficit.
LINK
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When he was a candidate, John Bel Edwards said Louisiana’s Cabinet secretaries were paid too much by then-Gov. Bobby Jindal, calling the salaries “exorbitant.” But since he moved into the Governor’s Office, Edwards has kept most of those salaries in place and boosted them further in some instances.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:25 pm to s-port tiger
How about instead of cutting jobs where people actually work for a living as most state workers do. You call your legislators and cut their salaries and benefits. Also we can stop paying people not to work. Food stamps is a way for people to abuse the system. They eat snow crabs, steaks and lobsters from grocery stores using their food stamp cards.also we need to stop paying people to have kids. I dont care what race , religion or country you come from if you cant afford kids dont have them...budget solved.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:29 pm to s-port tiger
You must not be aware of all the corporate giveaways. Try educating yourself. This past yr, Jindal and his crew actually GAVE more taxpayer money to corporations than they collected in corporate taxes. How does that grab you? We give those Duck Dynasty idiots a cool $6 mil a year to produce their stupid show ... a show that blathers on about "personal responsibility" and "making it on your own." Ironic, Huh?
This post was edited on 3/2/16 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:35 pm to vinceclsu
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They eat snow crabs, steaks and lobsters from grocery stores using their food stamp cards
Ah, there it is!
You work yourself up in a lather about welfare mommas buying lobster w/ foodstamps, but, you're cool with shoveling money to the Robertsons, Tom Benson, California movie industry, etc.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 10:17 pm to tiger chaser
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Everybody needs to read the state audit that was done in December an then you will understand why the state is in a cluster now. So much incompetence on spending in a majority of programs. It's appalling.
Link? I would love to read it.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 10:28 pm to tiger chaser
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So much incompetence on spending in a majority of programs. It's appalling.
This
It doesn't matter how much money we free up doing this or that. If we don't get rid of the dumb asses that control spending we will still be a poor state.
It's like reading about lottery winners who are broke a few years down the road.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 6:24 am to tickfawtiger
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one or max 2 term limits for ALL positions
If you will go to the Capitol now, you will see that term limits is a huge problem.
It takes time to be trained and become competent in any new job, and being a legislator is no different. They mean well, but simply lack the understanding and ability to perform at a high level, especially now when we need that the most.
Plus, if a district wants to return the same person to office again and again, why shouldn't those voters have that right? Why artificially limit the will of the voters?
Meh. Never mind. I'd rather talk sports.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 6:39 am to Dock Holiday
He didn't cut the workforce that much, he played shadow games and eliminated vacant positions. I know this firsthand
Posted on 3/3/16 at 6:39 am to OU812
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Stop giving state tax payer money($400 million) to the richest man(Tom Benson) in Louisiana as well.
Stop giving the law makers raises like JBE did as soon as he got into office too.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 7:13 am to TigerJeff
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You must not be aware of all the corporate giveaways. Try educating yourself. This past yr, Jindal and his crew actually GAVE more taxpayer money to corporations than they collected in corporate taxes. How does that grab you? We give those Duck Dynasty idiots a cool $6 mil a year to produce their stupid show ... a show that blathers on about "personal responsibility" and "making it on your own." Ironic, Huh?
While I don’t like some of them and agree to a point, ignoring the good it does for us citizens of Louisiana is the proverbial head-in-sand move. Its economics 101, you have to attract business. We are don’t have California weather, Florida beaches, The Rocky Mountains, or even the Smoky Mountains, so we have to offer something. Tourism and national interest in Louisiana is at an all-time high, that’s because of the attraction we have offered. We were largely shielded from the “great recession” from 2008-2010 because of these type of programs, not just the movie industry incentives. It brings in people, money and jobs. It helps housing, hotels, restaurants, car dealers, etc… To ignore that is short sighted or grinding an axe.
Again, I don’t like some of them, but see the bigger picture in how it helps Louisiana as a whole. Is it “fair” NO, but I don’t really care about fair, it’s business and it helps a family make a living and carve out a place.
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Jindal and his crew actually GAVE more taxpayer money to corporations than they collected in corporate taxes.
I'm questioning the validity of this. Show me a credible source where this is true. Not a political speech where a person is motivated to get votes. I'm talking real numbers from a source with no dog in the fight, a Dr. Dismukes kind of source.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 7:14 am to TheHumanTornado
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He didn't cut the workforce
I have worked with state government nearly everyday for almost 20 years, employees left for private companies as has always happened, but their position was not backfilled per the "administrative directive", that directive was not in place 10 years ago, that's not shadow games. Every state agency I work with have less workers now that they did in 2008, every single one of them, that's not shadow games. I also have multiple direct family members in state government and they don't like Jindal because they saw programs shrink and friends lose jobs, that's not shadow games. That's my first hand.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 7:21 am to s-port tiger
Been saying these schools need to sell tickets/raise booster money OR get out of the athletic arena. The taxpayers should not fund athletics
Posted on 3/3/16 at 7:28 am to Dock Holiday
I wasn't saying it didn't happen, but there were many "games" played, and you are correct on the backfilling. When positions would go vacant he would just eliminate them, he also eliminated positions that were vacant for a long time, that is what I know firsthand. My only point was that he didn't cut the actual workforce as much as that article suggests. The guy was as slimy as they come.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 7:33 am to Dock Holiday
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Jindal cut state employee numbers from somewhere near 90k to near 60k in his tenure
Yes and no.
When he privatized the charity hospitals, the employees of those hospitals became "private sector" employees, as well. They still are paid through DHH, so the amount that the state pays to them is pretty much the same. Another misleading Jindal budget shell game.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 7:36 am to tiger chaser
LINK
Link to state audit attached. Skip to page 72 -- Ouch. This is what our net liability is on just pensions -- not pretty.
You can also scan and see what we pay for each of the major buckets of state support.. Caution -- once you start reading, you will get aggravated.
Solutions are simple but politics prevents them from becoming reality. Some of the state supported programs are really beyond logic no matter your political perspective
Link to state audit attached. Skip to page 72 -- Ouch. This is what our net liability is on just pensions -- not pretty.
You can also scan and see what we pay for each of the major buckets of state support.. Caution -- once you start reading, you will get aggravated.
Solutions are simple but politics prevents them from becoming reality. Some of the state supported programs are really beyond logic no matter your political perspective
Posted on 3/3/16 at 7:54 am to Marlin2114
I agree but the solution, though it is the best thing long term, is a severe short term loss. And the longer you wait, the worse it is going to be.
Scary situation, really.
Scary situation, really.
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