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re: Has anyone here ever had to learn a playbook?
Posted on 11/30/14 at 3:55 pm to SammyTiger
Posted on 11/30/14 at 3:55 pm to SammyTiger
They don't get it. In the HUNH, the board on the sideline tells everyone their jobs. In a pro style like we run, the QB must know every route, his job, the RB's job, the blocking scheme, etc. He must know absolutely everything. There isn't some poster board telling everyone what to do.
Oh and on top of everything else, he must be able to read complex defenses without the benefit of the "check with me" help.
Oh and on top of everything else, he must be able to read complex defenses without the benefit of the "check with me" help.
This post was edited on 11/30/14 at 3:57 pm
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Posted on 11/30/14 at 3:56 pm to jimbeam
So you'd rather 5-7 with Harris than 8-4 with Jennings. That would have people calling for Miles head even more than now. You do what you have to do to get the most wins each year. You don't give up a year to get ready for the next. Fans would shite a brick.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 3:57 pm to tigerclaw10
Dude our offense was not the same it was last year. It was non complicated and extremely bland and easy to learn. Most high school teams could run that offense. Hell it was 70% run and just 30% pass and when it was a pass it was very simple route schemes and what not. And its not like we had that many pre snap reads where Jennings audibled to a different play.
And Harris was an EE. Meaning he was at LSU for the 2nd semester last year and went through the off season workouts, spring ball, etc. He knew the playbook. And its not like Jennings never made a mental mistake with the playbook and he ran it perfectly. He messed up a good bit as well.
It is what it is.
And Harris was an EE. Meaning he was at LSU for the 2nd semester last year and went through the off season workouts, spring ball, etc. He knew the playbook. And its not like Jennings never made a mental mistake with the playbook and he ran it perfectly. He messed up a good bit as well.
It is what it is.
This post was edited on 11/30/14 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 11/30/14 at 3:58 pm to Mattwells90
Exactly. That's why Mett is doing pretty damn good this year. He can read a defense. He can do it on his own because he's done it before.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 4:02 pm to KG5989
As opposed to giving them the full route tree and having a ton of interceptions. You work with what you have. It's like hiring a new guy. You gonna throw it all on him at once or are you gonna slowly introduce the job to him. If your throw it all on him at once you're the only one to blame when he screws it up.
This post was edited on 11/30/14 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 11/30/14 at 4:02 pm to trooploop
Great. Cam is the king of yesteryear at other places. What has he done here? One year of an nfl qb with good numbers (and still 3 losses) but aside from that, more horrible play at the position. How many times has Jennings thrown for under 100 yards? shite, even in the win the other day, AJ only threw for 107 and 50/50 percentage.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 4:05 pm to UL-SabanRival
Did you really expect our offense to light it up? It could have been better but come on.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 4:07 pm to tigerclaw10
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What team runs the pro style and has a successful freshman QB. You can say Jameis Winston from last year, but the defenses he played were highschool level.
So Jennings only sucks against the top defenses? Yeah, no. It's pretty much across the board.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 4:07 pm to UL-SabanRival
What has Cam done here? Seriously? He's at fault for the three losses last year? Tough to pin the 44-41 loss on him. LSU played the top three scoring defenses in the country with the second youngest position group. If the offense struggles next year bitch away. For you to say, "What has he done here?" is BS.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 4:07 pm to tigerclaw10
I'd rather 11-1 and in the hunt for a playoff birth with another coach. There is very little different about this year and next year because Miles will still be Miles.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 4:09 pm to JustSmokin
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What does it say about our coach who starts a true freshman in a hostile environment without knowing the playbook?
This is exactly why the "playbook" arguement is a fraud. Harris knows the playbook - the coaches started him against Auburn. Hell, he was an early enrollee and was here for spring practice.
If it's so hard for a freshman QB to "learn the playbook" then why does a freshman ever play at QB, anywhere?
Posted on 11/30/14 at 4:09 pm to tigerclaw10
How did J.T. Barrett and Kyle Allen know the playbook so well
Posted on 11/30/14 at 4:12 pm to trooploop
Okay. See you next year then, because Jennings hasn't improved all year, and he isn't going to gain any more natural talent. And apparently, Harris won't get any playing time, not even against the cream puffs.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 4:14 pm to UL-SabanRival
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We'll he's not going to get any in-game experience if they never play him, even against the crappy ooc opponents in clean up or when Jennings can't do anything against Arkansas.
I never said anything about playing time. Don't take the test till you are ready.
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They just can't coach qbs from scratch. Other teams have freshmen and sophomores who do much better than this. And the teams they field are just sloppy and undisciplined in general.
And some schools never play Freshmen or sophomores.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 4:17 pm to UL-SabanRival
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Great. Cam is the king of yesteryear at other places. What has he done here? One year of an nfl qb with good numbers (and still 3 losses) but aside from that, more horrible play at the position. How many times has Jennings thrown for under 100 yards? shite, even in the win the other day, AJ only threw for 107 and 50/50 percentage.
1. Mettenburger wasn't an NFL QB before Cam got here. He was an arm, with bad feet and a weak grasp of the position. Cam did a lot to help him not only mechanically, technically, but also mentally prepare for the NFL.
2. Harris is the Only QB Cam has recruited. HE can't fix jennings weak arm, he can only game plan around it.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 4:18 pm to SammyTiger
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And some schools never play Freshmen or sophomores.
Right, well LSU has no choice.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 4:20 pm to thunderbird1100
Do they run a pro style offense where they have to know their shite. No, they play a gimmick offense. Yeah, id love to have 500 yard passing nights, but I'm not expecting a Freshman or a Sophmore that will be passed up in the off season to do it in an offense that's difficult to learn and freshman surrounding him. You can say the offense is terrible, but this is the offense that gets them ready for the NFL. It's why kids come here even if our offense isn't great. They want to make it to the next level. This offense isn't some easy thing that you learn quickly. Unless you know what you're doing and how to read a defense, this is what we will look like. I accept that. Next year if our offense is terrible, we have a problem.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 4:20 pm to JustSmokin
I played football with TJ Dickson at Ocean Springs High School. Watched his brother too. We played both ways. Playbooks aren't that hard to learn unless you're MLB or QB. Enjoyed it. It's not that hard. Hell. One time we ran the play in and told the QB and he just said to hell with that and we called our own play.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 4:24 pm to SammyTiger
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Mettenburger wasn't an NFL QB before Cam got here. He was an arm, with bad feet and a weak grasp of the position. Cam did a lot to help him not only mechanically, technically, but also mentally prepare for the NFL.
LSU was 45th in passing offense last year, with nfl starters at every skill position. I agree that Crowtom did nothing to make Mett better, but it's not as if cam was a miracle worker in that regard.
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Harris is the Only QB Cam has recruited. HE can't fix jennings weak arm, he can only game plan around it
Well, if he wants to start doing that any day now, I'm all for it.
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