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re: Grave mistake at the end of last year's Bama game?
Posted on 8/5/15 at 8:53 am to TNTigerman
Posted on 8/5/15 at 8:53 am to TNTigerman
1. I don't think the kick out of bounds was a grave mistake. It's ten yards more than a touch back. A mistake, yes, but not a very big one. Bama made a short field goal to tie it. Ten yards more wouldn't have made a very big difference.
2. I agree, there should have been a penalty cause the dude launched himself head first. It was really obvious. However, the refs chose to pocket that one, and not the baby shove on our previous offensive drive.
3. You just ruined my day.
2. I agree, there should have been a penalty cause the dude launched himself head first. It was really obvious. However, the refs chose to pocket that one, and not the baby shove on our previous offensive drive.
3. You just ruined my day.
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Posted on 8/5/15 at 8:57 am to BigBrod81
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Posted on 8/5/15 at 9:03 am to Nuts4LSU
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So yeah, except for being completely wrong and full of shite, you are exactly right.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 9:06 am to Mattgobear
The Jennings int was on Dural. He flat got owned on his route and fell down.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 9:14 am to LSUfan20005
The reason we lost, was the Chief & his prevent defense in the last 59 seconds! 
Posted on 8/5/15 at 9:44 am to ShreveportTiger1987
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ShreveportTiger1987
Grave mistake at the end of last year's Bama game? by ShreveportTiger1987
Wanna know why LSU lost that game. It's pretty simple. 2 plays. 1. 15 yrd personal foul penalty near the fricking goal line. 2. Kicking the fricking ball out of bounds.
3. Miles or SOMEBODY not IMMEDIATELY throwing the challenge flag after Cooper's TRAPPED 3rd and 4 catch on the tying FG drive before OT.
You notice the WHOLE BAMA sideline had Bama SPRINT up to the line to snap the ball before they could throw the challenge flag.
If he does, it would have been overturned (the ball was moving and hit the ground on the way down), it's 4th down, and in all likelihood, LSU wins....
Posted on 8/5/15 at 9:47 am to TNTigerman
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In watching last year's Bama game, it occurred to me that Domingue may have purposely kicked the ball out of bounds on the last kickoff. After the Gumps tied it up in the last seconds, they showed the kickoff again from behind, and the angle Domingue took to the ball and the kicking action he used looked like he was deliberately kicking the ball out of bounds like a punter is trying to down the ball inside the 20. From the very flat angle he approached the ball, there was no way he could kick it down the center. Is it possible he didn't know the rules?
That thought is almost as dumb as someone who spends any part of their summer watching re-runs of last years games...especially losses.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:03 am to Nuts4LSU
Don't forget we had personal foul called on our first play of OT when we hit the pass down inside the 5. I thought it was total BS because our guy was just blocking and it was after the whistle but you get tied up and you just keep pushing I guess. Anyway, you gotta overcome those. Instead for first and goal at the 1 it was at the 16. We just overcame it and got out of there with a W.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:08 am to Sid in Lakeshore
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the rant - you guys have me beat down - hard to post but I love the read
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So yeah, except for being completely wrong and full of shite, you are exactly right.
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the rant - you guys have me beat down - hard to post but I love the read
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:24 am to TNTigerman
There were several complete and total frick ups to hand them the game...again.
I'd rather just move on...again.
I'd rather just move on...again.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:31 am to TNTigerman
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Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:34 am to MetryTyger
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Miles or SOMEBODY not IMMEDIATELY throwing the challenge flag after Cooper's TRAPPED 3rd and 4 catch on the tying FG drive before OT.
I can't fault anyone for that. Bama was out of timeouts, so calling one for them would have helped them out if the call wasn't reversed. It was impossible in the moment to know for sure that the call would be overturned, so it was, at the very least, not a "grave mistake" not to call a time out that would have helped them get the next play in while not using clock.
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You notice the WHOLE BAMA sideline had Bama SPRINT up to the line to snap the ball
Yes, because the clock was going to start on the ready for play signal so they had to hurry. It was precisely that difficulty for them that made it not necessarily a good idea to stop the clock for a challenge.
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If he does, it would have been overturned (the ball was moving and hit the ground on the way down),
In hindsight, maybe, but in the moment and with only a few seconds to make the decision, nobody could have been certain. And, even if the replay was pretty clear about it, we have seen replay rulings when playing Alabama that were, to say the least, curious. No way could we have been sure right off the bat that the call would be reversed.
You could argue, and I couldn't really disagree with you, that that play was so crucial (it was what put them in FG range) that it would have been worth risking giving them extra time just for the chance that it would be overturned, but again, that's not a clear-cut situation where you can really criticize not doing it.
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it's 4th down, and in all likelihood, LSU wins....
Well, we certainly would have been in a better position, but 4th and 16 inside their own 20 wasn't a good enough position for Chavis against Clemson, so who knows what would have happened on 4th down for Alabama?
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:40 am to Roses of Crimson
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Don't forget we had personal foul called on our first play of OT when we hit the pass down inside the 5. I thought it was total BS because our guy was just blocking and it was after the whistle but you get tied up and you just keep pushing I guess. Anyway, you gotta overcome those.
Overcoming first and 10 at the 16 is not the same as overcoming 2nd and goal outside the 20. Plus, barring a long drive in less than a minute with no timeouts (which seemed unlikely), a FG would win the game for us, so it made sense to play conservatively, use up Bama's time outs and make sure we got the FG and the lead. Miles' mistake, if there was one, was in relying on John Chavis to hold a 3 point lead for 50 seconds with the opponent on their own 35 yard line. In that situation, you have to make sure you get the lead and you have to be able to rely on your defense to make that stop when you have it.
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Instead for first and goal at the 1 it was at the 16
But not first and goal at the 16, which would still have been a better position than 2nd and goal outside the 20, it was first and 10.
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We just overcame it and got out of there with a W.
I know. I was there. I remember that Alabama won the game. But trying to compare those two personal foul situations and attribute different outcomes to coaching is ridiculous. The situations were completely different and called for different decisions. Both coaches made the correct decision for the situation they were in, and both got a good result. Miles got a go-ahead FG with under a minute to go and Bama out of timeouts, Saban got a TD on the first possession of OT. The difference was Bama made a stop on the opponent's ensuing possession while LSU didn't.
This post was edited on 8/5/15 at 11:47 am
Posted on 8/5/15 at 12:01 pm to Nuts4LSU
Somebody insert the ex Minnesota coach saying crown them, we had em and we let them off the hook. That's basically what that game was all about.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 1:31 pm to TNTigerman
The grave mistake was with almost 2 minutes left and 2 timeouts LSU should have kicked deep to Mississippi state and not onside kick.
LSU wins the Mississippi state ballgame if they kick deep in that situation and the season turns out differently.
LSU wins the Mississippi state ballgame if they kick deep in that situation and the season turns out differently.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 1:41 pm to say when
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Is it possible your IQ and your shoe size are one in the same
Truly one of my favorite things on a message board is when someone questions another's intelligence, and then uses incorrect spelling and/or grammar. I wasn't disappointed here.
The proper phrase is "one AND the same."
Posted on 8/5/15 at 1:54 pm to TNTigerman
The grave mistake was when we had the ball first and goal from 6 yd line, Miles decided to put Terrance MaGee in the backfeild (I could not believe what I was seeing) and not our best running back Leonard Fournette, of course MaGee got bulldozed, tried to scuffle for extra yds and the penalty. Fournette should have been in the game. Critical Les Miles mistake. On critical plays against Bama you should always play your best players. Fournette better then MaGee.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 1:58 pm to Nuts4LSU
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Nuts4LSU
Grave mistake at the end of last year's Bama game? by Nuts4LSU
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Alabama got the ball down to the one yard line on the first play of overtime, but a very ticky tack personal foul backed them up.
Another difference (MUCH more significant) was that the personal foul did not create a long yardage situation for them. It was still first and 10. Ours was much different because it created a second and goal from outside the 20. HUGE difference. Nothing about coaching.
Can someone PLEEEEEASE tell me why in the frick it was first and ten for Bama after their PF, and not first and GOAL ???????
And WHYYYYYYYYY was it not first and ten for LSU after the PF they called on Alexander? Why wasn't it first and ten for LSU, JUST like it was first and ten for Alabama after their PF ??????????????????
Posted on 8/5/15 at 2:40 pm to BRTiger2005
Coaching is more important in the final minute of a close game than at any other time in the 59 previous. We have seen this happen before people.
With that said I love coach Miles and am glad to have him here right now. LSU football could be doing better, but we're always in the discussion which is all you can ask for. Les loves us despite our faults as a fanbase.
With that said I love coach Miles and am glad to have him here right now. LSU football could be doing better, but we're always in the discussion which is all you can ask for. Les loves us despite our faults as a fanbase.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 2:49 pm to TNTigerman
It was another vintage loss that was completely avoidable.
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