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Posted on 11/19/14 at 2:12 pm to ForeverLSU02
Keep the defib paddles out. We're about to flat line!
Posted on 11/19/14 at 2:14 pm to ForeverLSU02
The purpose of a cumulative graph is to see what value a given variable will converge to given enough samples. So we should not be surprised to see basically each of these stats "flatline" after 90+ games. Even if we won 40 in a row the cum. winning percentage would only go up maybe 10%.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 2:15 pm to XKEnut
as noted decline in Defensive ability has stronger impact based on these graphs than offensive changes.
It also correlates to the loss of Bo Pelini as def coordinator.
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The decline roughly correlates to the last of Saban's players leaving.
It also correlates to the loss of Bo Pelini as def coordinator.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 2:16 pm to Negatiger1986
quote:How else would you plot winning percentage? Annually?
Even if we won 40 in a row the cum. winning percentage would only go up maybe 10%.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 2:17 pm to ForeverLSU02
Need to filter out rent-a-wins to even begin to have a discussion IMO.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 2:18 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
Perplexed how tDecline is real if the graph is in fact, not declining.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 2:20 pm to ForeverLSU02
Yea annually seems to be the obvious choice, but we already know what that looks like 
I appreciate the idea of trying to display the data in an alternative/interesting way, though. Maybe you or others in the thread can think of another way to spin it.
I appreciate the idea of trying to display the data in an alternative/interesting way, though. Maybe you or others in the thread can think of another way to spin it.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 2:22 pm to Negatiger1986
Yeah, I give up. 
Posted on 11/19/14 at 2:46 pm to ForeverLSU02
First Graph:
Second Graph:
Second Graph:
Posted on 11/19/14 at 2:49 pm to ForeverLSU02
in sales thoes trend lines would get you on a PIP
Posted on 11/19/14 at 2:49 pm to ForeverLSU02
Where did you get CLM's EKG?
Posted on 11/19/14 at 2:51 pm to Cracker
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in sales thoes trend lines would get you on a PIP
Damn sure would
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:04 pm to ForeverLSU02
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Yeah, I give up.
Like I stated in my post, people are not understanding what cumulative means or ignoring it all together.
The graph is misleading to the ranters. They look at it and see consistency, which is not the truth. When the truth is a downward trend.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:11 pm to ForeverLSU02
quote:12 or 24 game rolling averages should do the trick.
How else would you plot winning percentage? Annually?
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:22 pm to LigerFan
My conclusion is that you are only looking at the data that paints a picture of relative consistency under Les.
Why don't you graph total O and D rankings, and total Passing O rankings over the same time period. I think you will find that we are winning with a great D (except 2008 Malveto) a mediocre O, and a generally pitiful passing O (with spikes for JR and Mett).
Why don't you graph total O and D rankings, and total Passing O rankings over the same time period. I think you will find that we are winning with a great D (except 2008 Malveto) a mediocre O, and a generally pitiful passing O (with spikes for JR and Mett).
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:24 pm to Bleeding purple
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The decline roughly correlates to the last of Saban's players leaving.
It also correlates to the loss of Bo Pelini as def coordinator.
One could also pinpoint the loss of Todd Monken as where it all went downhill. Or maybe Stacy Searles. Could it be Josh Henson? All these are about as relevant as Sabans impact 3-4 years after he left.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:30 pm to Adam Banks
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One could also pinpoint the loss of Todd Monken as where it all went downhill. Or maybe Stacy Searles. Could it be Josh Henson? All these are about as relevant as Sabans impact 3-4 years after he left.
BS. Saban instills a discipline in his players that Miles doesn't get. You see hot chocolate on his sideline?
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:40 pm to XKEnut
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BS. Saban instills a discipline in his players that Miles doesn't get. You see hot chocolate on his sideline?
On the 2007 team the significant upper classman consisted of Flynn, Dorsey, Tyson Jackson, Hester, Doucet. Only Flynn had more than 1 year under Saban. Monken, Searles, Pelini, and Henson were more significant in their careers.
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