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Posted on 7/25/17 at 4:07 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:1/9/2012. Oh and that saved by the skin of his teeth and "perception" in budget negotiations at the end of 2015, and didn't change a damn thing.
You laugh at the idea that he will learn from his mistakes at LSU
stubborn hardheaded lied to us stubborn hardheaded lied to us stubborn hardheaded lied to us stubborn hardheaded lied to us stubborn hardheaded lied to us stubborn hardheaded lied to us stubborn hardheaded lied to us stubborn hardheaded lied to us stubborn hardheaded lied to us stubborn hardheaded lied to us
Like I said in another thread, he had numerous "learn from his mistakes" opportunities at LSU with an above 4mil salary and 11 years. To do it now shows he was negligent at LSU, not stubborn.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 4:41 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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He's not a good coach.
This is such a false statement it is ridiculous. Les is a good to great coach who just didn't evolve. A coach is a teacher and what Les was teaching his teams to do, run the ball, they were great at. The problem was what he was teaching them was outdated. The message was wrong not the way the message was coached. that is on him and he deserves what he got for it but that does not make him a bad coach.
For the record, I think Miles would do ok at Ole Miss for what they need right now. Les would clean up their image and do a good enough job with the limitations in recruiting. He may not win a lot of games but that should be the last thing on Ole Miss's mind until the sanctions are handed out and they get through it. No coach with a future is going to take that job right now. Les could steady the ship and keep it above water until you can go get someone when the sanctions are over.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 4:48 am to ellessuuuu
Teams that Pete Carroll and Les Miles were performing with. You are such an arse clown on here. You know it all don't you. No one can tell you anything. One day you are goung to realize just how little you know.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 4:50 am to I20goon
I agree with this. He was told to make changes, with his career on the line, and he said fu.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 4:54 am to BayouBengals18
You mean those two players right, jackson and guice. Most everyone else played well that game. But we get it, it fits your agenda. It is funny...all you O haters say the team wasn't focused, yet outside of jackson, the defense played well, and the offense was very balanced with over 200 passing and rushing yards each. Guice and Jackson just play decent, not great ball, and Lsu wins double digits.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 4:55 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Well for starters Ole Miss is a dumpster fire and may be facing multiple bowl bands. Even if it's only one yr it'll still be a tough sell. Besides that Idt that Leslie can be as flexible as O. The guy seemed pretty bull headed when it came to the offensive game. I feel that coach O is more in tinned with today's game and what it's going to take to put points on the board in today's game.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 4:59 am to earl keese
Not shitting on O right? Lol
The irony here is you don't appear smart enough to see the difference. Les refused to change, and his 1950s offense not only was the reason Lsu was losing games, but it made it increasingly difficult to watch. He generally wasn't losing games due to player mistakes, but rather inability to move the ball consistently against good teams. That wasn't the case against Florida last year...and O has made what appears to be very positive changes. But carry on with your agenda.
The irony here is you don't appear smart enough to see the difference. Les refused to change, and his 1950s offense not only was the reason Lsu was losing games, but it made it increasingly difficult to watch. He generally wasn't losing games due to player mistakes, but rather inability to move the ball consistently against good teams. That wasn't the case against Florida last year...and O has made what appears to be very positive changes. But carry on with your agenda.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 5:02 am to cbree88
And better than the .500 that Carroll and miles were with those same teams each perspective year.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 5:08 am to dgnx6
It isnt fabricated going into 2016. He was told to make changes. The administration and fans were vocal. It should have cost him his job in 2015. Instead, he goes out and shoots a big FU to administration and fans alike at Wisconsin. He should have been fired that day.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 6:32 am to Kedwards1
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And better than the .500 that Carroll and miles were with those same teams each perspective year.
O replaced Lane not Carroll.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 6:39 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
It's not like Les didn't have plenty of time to fix the mistakes he made at LSU while he was still here. The offense has been god awful since 2009. He went 6 full seasons with an offense that would
would make you cringe and never changed. What people fail to understand about Les is the fact that he honestly didn't think there was anything wrong with the offense. That was his biggest problem. When a reporter asked after he was saved in 2015 if he would change the offense the guy replied with.... "So, you wanna stop giving the ball to Leonard Fournette?"
He really just thought it was execution and not a scheme problem and it ultimately got him fired. The sad part is that he used to actually run a more open offense, and the 2008 pick six year shell shocked him into the shite show everyone hated to watch.
would make you cringe and never changed. What people fail to understand about Les is the fact that he honestly didn't think there was anything wrong with the offense. That was his biggest problem. When a reporter asked after he was saved in 2015 if he would change the offense the guy replied with.... "So, you wanna stop giving the ball to Leonard Fournette?"
He really just thought it was execution and not a scheme problem and it ultimately got him fired. The sad part is that he used to actually run a more open offense, and the 2008 pick six year shell shocked him into the shite show everyone hated to watch.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 6:55 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
This has nothing to do with O.
The truth is OM is a dumpster fire. They did well under Freeze because he:
1. Implemented an uptempo offense
2. Was able to attract good players that fit a high powered offense
3. Used shady recruiting to bring in talent on both sides of the ball that would not normally go to Ole Miss
With the cloud over that program and possible impending sanctions, which of these do you think Les will be able to accomplish? Is he going to be able to attract top coordinators?
The truth is OM is a dumpster fire. They did well under Freeze because he:
1. Implemented an uptempo offense
2. Was able to attract good players that fit a high powered offense
3. Used shady recruiting to bring in talent on both sides of the ball that would not normally go to Ole Miss
With the cloud over that program and possible impending sanctions, which of these do you think Les will be able to accomplish? Is he going to be able to attract top coordinators?
Posted on 7/25/17 at 7:30 am to KingwoodLsuFan
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They'll have a large amount of scholarships taken away and who knows how many years of being banned from bowls. Their talent level is going to be horrendously bad.
I'm so fricking hard right now
Posted on 7/25/17 at 7:33 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Learn? Nope, too stubborn...see season of dismissal
If Les Miles couldn't win at LSU with all its talent you honestly believe he can at Ole Miss?
If Les Miles couldn't win at LSU with all its talent you honestly believe he can at Ole Miss?
Posted on 7/25/17 at 7:34 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Jesus Christ some of you rantards are fricking hilarious.
Coach O is nothing but the glorified cheerleader.
Coach Canaranda is what will determine our fate.
Coach O is nothing but the glorified cheerleader.
Coach Canaranda is what will determine our fate.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 7:43 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Your premise is completely wrong. Its not about mistakes, its about being stubborn and refusing to realize when a change is needed.
Miles has demonstrated stubbornness, Orgeron hasn't. Actually Orgeron has made a point of acknowledging that his approach at Ole Miss was wrong, and even from what little we've seen it is obvious that his behavior now is nothing like what it was then.. Last summer Miles claimed the staff was going to be studying other school's approaches and saying things like "you can't expect different results by doing the same thing over and over", etc. And yet...when the season started, same ol' same ol'. If you want to claim double standard bring up some examples where Orgeron did anything similar.
Miles has demonstrated stubbornness, Orgeron hasn't. Actually Orgeron has made a point of acknowledging that his approach at Ole Miss was wrong, and even from what little we've seen it is obvious that his behavior now is nothing like what it was then.. Last summer Miles claimed the staff was going to be studying other school's approaches and saying things like "you can't expect different results by doing the same thing over and over", etc. And yet...when the season started, same ol' same ol'. If you want to claim double standard bring up some examples where Orgeron did anything similar.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 7:45 am to 50_Tiger
I take it you are not from corporate America or know much about a CEO.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 7:46 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
One of these is not like the others!!! You figure out since you have an affinity for the hat....who had ample time to learn from his past while at LSU
Posted on 7/25/17 at 7:48 am to Kedwards1
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I take it you are not from corporate America or know much about a CEO.
I work for a fortune 500 company and the second largest telecom provider in the world.
We have 6 levels of management.
To compare a football team to this is laughable at best.
At most you can say is O has a vision. He passes his vision down to his executive management team (Canada, Aranda). They pass is down to the assistants.
That's basic infrastructure for anything lmao.
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