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re: For those of you laughing at the idea of leslie being good at ole miss
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:19 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:19 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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For those of you laughing at the idea of leslie being good at ole miss
Tough to be good in the SEC when you might have to raid the fraternity houses to fill out your roster for a couple of years.
Have you ever seen Necessary Roughness? That's 2018 Ole Miss, minus the uplifting ending or having 1990 Kathy Ireland join the program.
This post was edited on 7/24/17 at 10:21 pm
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:19 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
What about those who could give zero fricks??
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:36 pm to BayouBengals18
So you are blaming O for players making mistakes? Damn
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:36 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Just let this stuff unfold as it will. You know what you were going to get with Les and hopefully you are glad that it is over. If you aren't, I would call you insane. The time had come.
We have no idea with Coach O, but the upside is there. Anybody who claims he will be better is going off blind faith. Hoping that's the case though is extremely reasonable. The last 5 years of Les are very attainable by any man that steps into the reins of LSU.
I have no idea what Coach O will be, nor does anyone else, but I can only hope what he has done organizationally is good enough to at least maintain. Regardless, it looks likely that it will be done in much better fashion this year compared to others. We can only wait and see.
We have no idea with Coach O, but the upside is there. Anybody who claims he will be better is going off blind faith. Hoping that's the case though is extremely reasonable. The last 5 years of Les are very attainable by any man that steps into the reins of LSU.
I have no idea what Coach O will be, nor does anyone else, but I can only hope what he has done organizationally is good enough to at least maintain. Regardless, it looks likely that it will be done in much better fashion this year compared to others. We can only wait and see.
This post was edited on 7/24/17 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:37 pm to supersaints9
I'm blaming him for not having the players focused against a depleted defense with the Sugar Bowl on the line.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:43 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
One thing I haven't read out of all of this, is that Les still has to be in an active job search in order to collect his pay from LSU. I just feel he's doing this to go through the motions and test the waters. And this makes a great story line so all of these writers are bitting on the opportunity to write their viewpoints on what they heard from someone else.
My point is Les will not be the HC because he wants to win now and starting over at ole miss is not going to work well for him unless he's doing it to land a better job afterwards. Who knows what his mindset is atm.
My point is Les will not be the HC because he wants to win now and starting over at ole miss is not going to work well for him unless he's doing it to land a better job afterwards. Who knows what his mindset is atm.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:58 pm to BayouBengals18
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Well, he apparently didn't have the team focused, considering what was on the line
Yep, pissed that Sugar Bowl berth away. That was terribly disappointing. Not 1/9 disappointing, but right behind it in my opinion.
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and since we're now blaming players for losses instead of the HC.
That's another thing that's puzzling. before October of 2016, if or when a player screwed up like what happened in the Florida game, the rant always placed the blame on the head coach and his staff.
Doesn't seem to be that way anymore.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:00 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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For those of you laughing at the idea of leslie being good at ole miss
You laugh at the idea that he will learn from his mistakes at LSU and be a positive force at Ole Miss.
Yet you just take Orgeron at his word when he assures you he has learned from his mistakes at OM and be a positive force at LSU.
Why the double standard?
he won't be successful there because they are going to be hammered by probation, which is also why he's not going to take a job there.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:01 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Oh goodness
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:11 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
O showed improvement during two interim gigs
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:17 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Les had several years of having proven that what he was doing wasn't working on the offensive side and never trying to change anything or hardly changing direction despite saying that he would change. His offense would fail spectacularly in huge moments from stubbornness. He would apologize and say that things were going to change. Then he would be stubbornly right back to doing the exact same thing. He has proven that he can not learn any new tricks, and he just is what he is. Or he refuses to try anything new at least.
That said, I'm not exactly super confident in Coach O either.
That said, I'm not exactly super confident in Coach O either.
This post was edited on 7/24/17 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:23 pm to supersaints9
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My very short answer would be how Orgeron did at USC 6-2 and Lsu 6-2 after taking over.
That's a .750 winning percentage, which is lower than Miles' winning percentage at LSU.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:48 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
O can be mediocre if he recruits like he always has and lets his coordinators coach that talent. Game time he worries about clock management and influences big calls. Sounds good on paper. Miles was pretty much told point blank that he has to stop the old big 10 offense and he would not. And I am not knocking Miles for that btw, we won a lot of games and he was a great man. But coach O would be a fool to make the same mistakes he made at old miss, trying to control wvery aspect.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:05 am to Palm Beach Tiger
I was adamantly against hiring O. But he is our HC now and, as far as I am concerned, Ed Orgeron's record is 1-0. He has my full support. And I will give him three years to establish what kind of HC he is gonna be.
I am hoping for good things under Coach O.
I am hoping for good things under Coach O.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:06 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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You laugh at the idea that he will learn from his mistakes at LSU
Les will never change his offensive strategies.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:07 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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You laugh at the idea that he will learn from his mistakes at LSU and be a positive force at Ole Miss.
Yet you just take Orgeron at his word when he assures you he has learned from his mistakes at OM and be a positive force at LSU
Ole Miss and LSU are vastly different jobs. Virtually the only thing that Orgeron has to do next year is stay the frick out of things and let Canada, Aranda, and our talent do their things. He had a short tenure at Ole Miss and he seemed to realize a lot of things in hindsight and I can't say that I'm disappointed in his performance at LSU last year, especially with Ensminger running the offense.
Furthermore, if O is as good to work with/for as everyone says he is, then he shouldn't have any issues pulling in quality coordinators year in and year out and being a PJ Fleck type of coach who relies heavily on his assistants and recruiting accumen.
Miles on the other hand would be going from a top 5 job to a program in shambles, and he had 10 fricking years of reporters and news outlets trashing his offense, and he openly admitted that he was "looking into changing things" every offseason, and in the end he flat out he refused to. He was almost fired once, and he still refused to change. I don't really see any reason to believe that Orgeron is hardheaded on that level.
LSU's program can win a lot of games on its own at this point in time and I think Orgeron coaching here and, hypothetically, Miles in a lesser situation would be proof of that
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:16 am to LSUgrad08112
It is the best way for OM to make the best of a bad situation.
CLM won't win a Championship there, BUT.....Mississippi is the most talent rich state per ca pita there is. You know he can recuruit, everyone loves him as a person. If CLM simply gets enough good talent to stay in Oxford, he will win 7-9 games a year with smash mouth, run first O until the sanctions are over then who knows.
OM could do a lot worse.
OM fans need to realize it is going to get bad due to the issues. They may not have a flashy team for a little while, but CLM will provide a clean, well run program to get them through it.
CLM won't win a Championship there, BUT.....Mississippi is the most talent rich state per ca pita there is. You know he can recuruit, everyone loves him as a person. If CLM simply gets enough good talent to stay in Oxford, he will win 7-9 games a year with smash mouth, run first O until the sanctions are over then who knows.
OM could do a lot worse.
OM fans need to realize it is going to get bad due to the issues. They may not have a flashy team for a little while, but CLM will provide a clean, well run program to get them through it.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:20 am to GeorgeWest
Even though I hate it, O is the coach and I'll root like hell for the team every Saturday. But...
Is stupid. Why does he get a free pass for 3 years? The program is pretty well stocked. With his horrible resume, he should be judged on a yearly basis vs logical expectations.
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And I will give him three years to establish what kind of HC he is gonna be
Is stupid. Why does he get a free pass for 3 years? The program is pretty well stocked. With his horrible resume, he should be judged on a yearly basis vs logical expectations.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:44 am to Peazey
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He would apologize and say that things were going to change.
I don't really recall stuff like this. He never told the fans he was going to change. Les was rarely straight forward in front of the media about the team.
I hope O does well because that means the team wins. But I hate when people just make shite up and have the double standard. He has a lot to prove.
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 1:50 am
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:49 am to LSUgrad08112
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"looking into changing things" every offseason,
See like this. This is completely fabricated.
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