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re: Film Room: Jalen Collins vs Amari Cooper

Posted on 4/26/15 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/26/15 at 12:38 pm to
This guy has no clue what defenses we were running or what Collins responsibility was on any of those plays, so his opinion is worthless. I guarantee our coaches had watched film all year, seen cooper burn every team, and told our CBs to prevent the deep ball at all costs. Hence Collins being beaten on slant routes.
This post was edited on 4/26/15 at 12:39 pm
Posted by AnotherRound
Member since Oct 2012
2865 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 12:58 pm to
Well I agree with all he said.

That was the most worrisome part of that game for me, before it occurred. The only out we had was if Cooper didn't show up. He followed that for most of the game, until towards the end.

I appreciate what JC gave to LSU, but he wasn't who we needed on Cooper.
Posted by AnotherRound
Member since Oct 2012
2865 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 1:01 pm to
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This guy has no clue what defenses we were running or what Collins responsibility was on any of those plays, so his opinion is worthless. I guarantee our coaches had watched film all year, seen cooper burn every team, and told our CBs to prevent the deep ball at all costs. Hence Collins being beaten on slant routes.


While that could be true, if we were so worried about Cooper, we needed a Safety on top in coverage. I don't think that was what we were doing. However in the spread sets, its not easy to tell.
Posted by smash williams
San Diego
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/26/15 at 3:40 pm to
Linebackers underneath
Posted by tiggah1981
Winterfell
Member since Aug 2007
17021 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 8:36 pm to
Still don't understand the love for JC...He's a Tharold Simon clone
Posted by ready4something
virginia beach
Member since Jul 2008
6541 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 9:28 pm to
Jalen Collins was okay....I don't believe he is a shut down corner but he was decent at LSU. You knew when a team needed a catch on 3rd down.....Collins was giving it up...
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
29956 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 9:57 pm to
that's why i think white will be a first round pick. He's been our best cb since he got on campus
Posted by TigerNSac
Sacramento
Member since Oct 2008
592 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 9:58 pm to
It was not an objective analysis. We all can pick two or three passes that A. Cooper dropped in the game and point how the football should be caught by him.

The writer did not highlight J. Collins strong points in the game. He did a good job, even one on one down the field on Cooper.

Slant passes are the toughest passes to defend on all levels of football when it is one-on-one. The writer is full of Sh@t.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259940 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 10:06 pm to
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Jalen Collins was okay....I don't believe he is a shut down corner but he was decent at LSU. You knew when a team needed a catch on 3rd down.....Collins was giving it up.


Collins is a great athlete but far from a great cover man. White was LSU's best cover man by far.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 6:25 am to
When Mayock was ranking CB's and had JC #1, he continually mentioned that he did not excel at coverage underneath because of scheme and lack of technique due to it.

This is not some overvaluation. Well known draft experts already see his issues in underneath coverage and the main pluses were athleticism, pure speed, agility, and lack of separation on all coverages outside of the underneath coverage types.

This guy is using six reps to act like people are ignoring the truth about JC. He's off base with his discussion about overvaluation. But he's definitely not off with the discussion about underneath coverage technique.
Posted by toughcrittercrumb
Houston
Member since Nov 2008
2140 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 6:34 am to
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You are replying to the following post:
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Film Room: Jalen Collins vs Amari Cooper
Pretty interesting film break down of Jalen Collins vs Cooper this year. Spoiler - it doesn't do Collins any favors...

YouTube




Come on man!!! Listen to the music that this guy his playing. He seems like a Bama fan. Plus he only looks at 3 or 4 plays. How about looking at each play by play. Anyone can take your worst plays and make you look like you are completely over rated. I call BS on this.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
8898 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 8:20 am to
Jalen Collins vs Amari Cooper

it was evident after about 2 series that white could run step for step with cooper and collins could only hope to stay close enough to tackle him after he caught it. i couldnt for the life of me figure out why white didnt shadow cooper the entire game.

this is no disrespect to collins, hes just a better matchup against bigger receivers.

ETA: i didnt watch the video, just commenting on what i saw in the game.
This post was edited on 4/27/15 at 8:26 am
Posted by Football_Freak
Member since May 2012
2410 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 9:05 am to
agree. Collins is not of the pedigree of a standard "LSU corner". He is 3rd round material, but his measurables and the LSU DBU legacy allow him to possible get overpaid and overdrafted.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29263 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 9:46 am to
what sucks is if he gets drafted high and fails, it tarnishes the DBU moniker a little.
hoping he has a successful career and gets coached up.
Posted by 610man
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
7334 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:09 am to
On the plays that are shown in this clip the guy doing the video is spot on. I don't think Collins is that great, never have.
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8623 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:12 am to
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Still don't understand the love for JC...He's a Tharold Simon clone


So a guy who will get drafted and eventually contribute to a Super Bowl level team?
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29263 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:21 am to
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eventually contribute to a Super Bowl level team


didn't simon give up the winning TD?
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