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re: everyone seems to blame miles for all of this stuff
Posted on 10/4/10 at 6:59 am to TulsaTimeTiger
Posted on 10/4/10 at 6:59 am to TulsaTimeTiger
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Well, if we have 20 seconds left and no time outs down there on the 2 yard line, why was Miles trying to substitute all those players?
Miles didn't....Crowton did. It's the OCs job to call for substitutions
Posted on 10/4/10 at 7:05 am to Choctaw
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Miles didn't....Crowton did. It's the OCs job to call for substitutions
you're going to tell me that the head coach, who is listening to the same headset everyone else is, was not aware that a) JJ was going into the game b) had a single play called c) had no contingency for not scoring like spiking the ball and d) was powerless to stop things when "someone" decided to change personnel.
you're honestly going to tell me that the head coach is that so impotent on the sideline, that a clock management trainwreck was occuring AGAIN and he was utterly powerless to stop it?
Posted on 10/4/10 at 7:06 am to LSU GrandDad
Les is the head boss man. It ultimately rests upon his shoulders when it all comes down to it. Gary works for Les. Les is not the victim here. He's in complete control of whatever happens, or let's say he's supossed to be in control of it. That's why he gets paid what he does, not to be a figure head, but to run this program in the right direction, and have it opperating effeciently, and I think anyone who's witnessed this program over the last couple of years can plainly see that it's anything but that.
Now true, RP left, which left us in a pickle at the QB position, and some very inexperienced QBs on the field, but that simply does not account for the lack of talent recruited, or more importantly the screwball mess that is the penalties out the arse, the piss poor clock management, and the overall confusion on the team. THAT'S LES, and that is within his control.
Now true, RP left, which left us in a pickle at the QB position, and some very inexperienced QBs on the field, but that simply does not account for the lack of talent recruited, or more importantly the screwball mess that is the penalties out the arse, the piss poor clock management, and the overall confusion on the team. THAT'S LES, and that is within his control.
This post was edited on 10/4/10 at 7:10 am
Posted on 10/4/10 at 7:08 am to Choctaw
I really wish we all knew who was directly at fault for all of this clock mismanagement and inept play calling. Is it Crowton or is it Miles interference?
What we do know beyond a shadow of doubt is that the Miles/Crowton combination, as it exists, is perhaps the worst in NCAA football.
As the head coach, the buck stops with Miles. He needs to rectify the situation now.
What we do know beyond a shadow of doubt is that the Miles/Crowton combination, as it exists, is perhaps the worst in NCAA football.
As the head coach, the buck stops with Miles. He needs to rectify the situation now.
This post was edited on 10/4/10 at 7:10 am
Posted on 10/4/10 at 7:08 am to LSU GrandDad
ARe you serious? Are you serious?
The head coach isn't to blame for preparing the team for clock management? Getting plays in?
Hell, he told the national media last year that he would get this fixed.
He has no idea what he's doing or what he's talking about.
It's pretty rare when this happens -- but everyone is right.
Posted on 10/4/10 at 7:13 am to LSU GrandDad
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i blame crowton,
i blame Ryan Perriloux...RP set this program back at least 4 maybe 5 years.
Posted on 10/4/10 at 7:29 am to oilfieldtiger
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you're going to tell me that the head coach, who is listening to the same headset everyone else is, was not aware that a)JJwas going into the game b) had a single play called c)had no contingence for not scoring like spiking the ball and d) was poverless to stop things when "someone" decided to change personnel
in a way, he was helpless AT THAT POINT. if he had completely disrupted what was going on we probablly would have run out of time. granted, the contingency should have been prepared for. but a head coach has to delegate some things and crowton has to take responsility for his part in this snafu. yes, miles is responsible overall and will have to tell crowton what to do. no timeouts is a hell of a thing. the objective of what they were doing was not bad (even though i disagree with it) but there wasn't enough time to do it and the execution was poor. #1)IMHO, JJ should have run behind our best run blockers; the right side of our OL sucked all day on run blocking #2)our QB has to be more aware of the clock and spike the ball or throw a pass immediately if the play doesn't work #3) yes, more than one play should have been called. but crowton should have his QB ready with one or two "what if" plays automatically. we have a CEO type coach and i blame this on Crowton. yes, miles is responsible for Crowton's actions and i bet that changes at years end.
Posted on 10/4/10 at 7:52 am to ForeLSU
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if our offense was worth a crap
First, Miles is involved in the offense. He hired Crowton, and has meddled in the system to the point that it's some unrecognizable hybrid system. i'm not saying the straight up Gary Crowton-spread would work, but this is not the offense he ran at Oregon, LaTech, BYU, or Chicago.
Second, Miles hired an OC w/ just about as different an offense system as he could possibly find. They are 180 degree opposites philosophically. so offensively, we have a house divided against itself
Third, we have had a number of scholarship QB's in camp, none of which have worked out since RP was dismissed. Either we did a poor job of recruiting, a poor job of identifying talent within the program, or we've done a poor job of developing talent. hopefully JLee will show some marked improvement though
Fourth, i'm not a coach and have no dilusions of grandeur, but i at least have a concept of how to manage the clock at the end of the game. i at least know that you need to give the QB some kind of instruction as to what to do if he fails to score. it's utterly absurd that it fell to the much maligned backup center to realize something needed to be done and act.
This post was edited on 10/4/10 at 7:54 am
Posted on 10/4/10 at 7:58 am to LSU GrandDad
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he was helpless AT THAT POINT
i would like for someone to look back at the game tape and see the exact sequence of events on the sidelines leading to JJ enterring the game. who is he talking to? is he talking to miles? i can't do this at work, but i'm curious to see exactly how it went down at the end.
Posted on 10/4/10 at 7:59 am to LS1tiger
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If you had any common sense, you may realize that Les has the power to get rid of "The Wizard", but has chosen to keep him around. Therefore, it is LES MILES FAULT! He's in charge, he takes the blame. Don't try to pawn it off on another coach when everyone "in their minds eye", knows that this debacle of an offense is Leslies fault.
What he said.
The HEAD FRICKING COACH is responsible for everything on the field. If an assistant coach isn't doing their job, then the HEAD COACH needs to do something about it. Miles and Crowton are like oil and water. They don't mix. Wanna be a Michigan of the 70's/Alabama of the last few years, then hire an OC with the same philosophy and expertise in that style of offensive football.........
Posted on 10/4/10 at 8:01 am to TulsaTimeTiger
Miles is the head coach. The buck stops with him. If Crowton is the problem the expectation is that Miles deals with that and handles the situation. So regardless of who is screwing up from a coaching perspective Miles is ultimately responsible. This is not a new problem, but a lingering one.
Posted on 10/4/10 at 8:01 am to TulsaTimeTiger
Let's blame Aleva first, he is the money man who did not want to pay out the termination clause in Crowton's contract. I blame Miles second for not pushing Aleva to get rid of Crowton. Miles is CEO of his team. The buck stops their!
They need to fire Crowton today! i.e. BYU firing their Defensive Coordinator this weekend. Unfortunely will not happen.
They need to fire Crowton today! i.e. BYU firing their Defensive Coordinator this weekend. Unfortunely will not happen.
Posted on 10/4/10 at 8:09 am to LSU GrandDad
quote:Good. And who is it who is HC? Is it Crowton? No, it is CLM. Who is it who tolerates this ineffective (being kind) offense week after week, and with all the incredible talent out there going to waste? And who is it who has the call over who is actually out there as assistant coaches? Yes, you got it - CLM. Why do people blame him? Because he's calling the shots, and he hasn't cleaned house on the offensive side of the game.
everyone seems to blame miles for all of this stuff and i understand some of that
Posted on 10/4/10 at 8:11 am to oilfieldtiger
quote:Excellent suggestion.
i would like for someone to look back at the game tape and see the exact sequence of events on the sidelines leading to JJ enterring the game. who is he talking to? is he talking to miles? i can't do this at work, but i'm curious to see exactly how it went down at the end.
Posted on 10/4/10 at 8:13 am to LSU GrandDad
Can't blame the offense, we actually had over 400 yds offense this week.
Blame the 4 turnovers if you want
Blame the 4 turnovers if you want
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